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Mar 29, 2013 14:38:05   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Guilty on about 70% of those counts. :)

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Mar 29, 2013 14:48:28   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
This guy must be a loser!

Nikon camera strap...

Gear that doesn't look like it's been run over by a tank

LCD Magnifier


Oh yeah...This is a picture from Scott kelby dot com..it's his gear...

what a loser...obviously not a "pro" like Rockwell.



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Mar 29, 2013 14:56:11   #
TigerArt Imagery Loc: Hillsboro, Texas
 
I promise that none of this is absolutely true in any regard. I am a professional, as I have actually sold pieces of my work. I use a backpack, because it not only carries my spare (12-24mm wide angle) lens, but also carries a really nice, lightweight Manfrotto tripod -- the only lightweight tripod I found that doesn't buckle from the weight of my camera and primary lens, a Tamron 18-270mm lens. I tote both my gear and my wife's gear in a rolling camera bag. Unless I have lost it, I always use the lens cap, even though I have a polarized filter and a clear filter on the end of my lens. I used to think the best way to spot an amateur was anyone using a point and shoot or cell phone camera, but after seeing some really fine photographs taken with both, no longer hold that opinion. Photography is art -- how you produce it is not important and your method of toting the equipment is not important -- the only important thing is whether you are producing images in which you can take pride. (I readily admit, though, that those images in which I took pride 5 years ago do not count [with one or two exceptions] among the best of my work at this day and time.) A professional is simply someone who produces images in hopes of marketing them in some manner.

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Mar 29, 2013 14:59:01   #
TigerArt Imagery Loc: Hillsboro, Texas
 
rpavich wrote:
This guy must be a loser!

Nikon camera strap...

Gear that doesn't look like it's been run over by a tank

LCD Magnifier


Oh yeah...This is a picture from Scott kelby dot com..it's his gear...

what a loser...obviously not a "pro" like Rockwell.


One of the truly professionals I know (Willie Nelson's exclusive photographer) carries two DSLRs with differing lenses -- one is usually in his hands and the other hanging around his neck by its strap.

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Mar 29, 2013 15:09:27   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
PalePictures wrote:

I think Ken Rockwell has spent a little to much time writing articles rather than shooting...in the real world.


Pale, isn't KR's claim to fame in cinema? If so, now there's the REAL world.

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Mar 29, 2013 15:39:00   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Here's another one he left off...
Real pros don't write smug, condescending articles making ridiculous and generalized fun of other photographers to presumably make themselves look and feel superior.
What should he care what kind of camera strap somebody uses and how they wear it or under what conditions somebody might decide to use a tripod?
And the statement that real pros all treat their gear like crap and beat the hell out of it??! Yeah, that's a great idea.
Some of the stuff he writes applies but a lot of it is a total steaming pile.
Here's another one he left off... br Real pros don... (show quote)
'Xactly!

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Mar 29, 2013 15:51:18   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I do not consider Ken Rockwell a professional photographer. I have never seen his photography used commercially, nor does he have a portrait studio, or similar. He is an opinionated writer (not a journalist), like a sports writer who never played the game.

He claims his income is mainly from donations of his (amateur) followers, yet he publishes an antagonistic article like this? I am not surprised that he continues to lose credibility.

P.S. - I have a bachelors degree in technical photography (previously 20-years as a "pro" ), am published just about monthly, carry a photo backpack, have been known to use a tripod, use a Nikon strap on my second camera body, and swear by my HoodLoupe.

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Mar 29, 2013 17:14:09   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Here's another one he left off...
Real pros don't write smug, condescending articles making ridiculous and generalized fun of other photographers to presumably make themselves look and feel superior.

What should he care what kind of camera strap somebody uses and how they wear it or under what conditions somebody might decide to use a tripod?

And the statement that real pros all treat their gear like crap and beat the hell out of it??! Yeah, that's a great idea.

Some of the stuff he writes applies but a lot of it is a total steaming pile.
Here's another one he left off... br Real pros don... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Applies to some of the posters on UHH too!!

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Mar 29, 2013 18:48:05   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Got two to add: holding the camera by the sides like a point and shot; or holding the camera by wrapping the fingers around the left side of the lens instead of cradling the lens in the palm of the left hand. See both all the time.

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Mar 29, 2013 19:57:54   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
I'd say none of the above means doodley squat, the only thing that matters is the quality of the image and I don't care how you held your camera or what you pack it in or if you use or don't use a tripod or if you dip it in chocolate. If the image quality is there it just doesn't matter...JMHO of course.

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Mar 29, 2013 20:19:46   #
ioptfm Loc: Isle of Palms, SC
 
So be it in most items, but still having fun! :)

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Mar 29, 2013 20:20:55   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Yah - and try all the above being left handed using right handed equipment. LMAO
Pepper wrote:
I'd say none of the above means doodley squat, the only thing that matters is the quality of the image and I don't care how you held your camera or what you pack it in or if you use or don't use a tripod or if you dip it in chocolate. If the image quality is there it just doesn't matter...JMHO of course.

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Mar 29, 2013 20:25:11   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
As an artist I can say that most of this is not true if your are an artist or a studio professional. However, as a photojournalist I can tell you that most of it is true if you are working as a photojournalist or sports photographer. It depends on what kind of professional you are talking about.

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Mar 29, 2013 20:28:02   #
Elmosal Loc: Austin Tx
 
T2i_Lorne wrote:
There are lousy Pros and really great amateurs. What you look like is nobody's concern. If it works for you, fill yer boots.

I still don't get why a guy like K.R. has to beg for money on his website. The suggested donation is $9.99 per month - for information that can be gotten for free from a thousand other sources. I raised 2 boys on much less than he makes and never once asked for a handout from anyone.

Just sayin' :-)


:thumbup:

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Mar 29, 2013 20:31:22   #
Elmosal Loc: Austin Tx
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
I do not consider Ken Rockwell a professional photographer. I have never seen his photography used commercially, nor does he have a portrait studio, or similar. He is an opinionated writer (not a journalist), like a sports writer who never played the game.

He claims his income is mainly from donations of his (amateur) followers, yet he publishes an antagonistic article like this? I am not surprised that he continues to lose credibility.

P.S. - I have a bachelors degree in technical photography (previously 20-years as a "pro" ), am published just about monthly, carry a photo backpack, have been known to use a tripod, use a Nikon strap on my second camera body, and swear by my HoodLoupe.
I do not consider Ken Rockwell a professional phot... (show quote)

What you said!!!

:thumbup:

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