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Mar 23, 2013 22:05:02   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
[quote=Kombiguy]
UP-2-IT wrote:
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As long as folks let themselves get fat get weak and get lazy they need someone to look after them. I wouldn't blame any employer that refused them insurance or charged them a penalty each month.[/quote]

I think everyone should take an IQ test, and if they're stupid, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. They also obviously need someone to look after them. Perhaps we should have yearly exams where the government culls those deemed unfit to live?


Didn't Hitler try this?

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Mar 23, 2013 22:28:24   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
When you apply for car insurance they check your driving record, the car you drive, your age, where you live, where you work, if you own your home or rent, and other factors to see what their risk is and determine how much you will pay for your insurance.
Many companies require a doctors report to hire you to make sure you can do the job. If you have health issues the insurance company wants to know their risk.

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Mar 24, 2013 05:29:32   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
kjfishman wrote:
Remoman wrote:
What are your thoughts on this?
I wonder if this will be legal under various states' privacy and labor laws?

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2013/03/20/17387406-cvs-to-workers-tell-us-how-much-you-weigh-or-itll-cost-you-600-a-year?lite


Since I retired in 2005 and had to get private health insurance we have been subject to this. Under Obama care they say they have to cover preexisting conditions. That is a joke they just put a big deductible on the condition. I have sleep apnea and the deductible is $15,000.

The day that we can only eat government approved foods probably is something we will see in the future. Socialism is taking over little by little.
quote=Remoman What are your thoughts on this? br ... (show quote)


if they are real foods and not processed with coloring and additives, it might not be a bad thing.

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Mar 24, 2013 11:40:12   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
[quote=PhotoTex]
Kombiguy wrote:
UP-2-IT wrote:
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As long as folks let themselves get fat get weak and get lazy they need someone to look after them. I wouldn't blame any employer that refused them insurance or charged them a penalty each month.[/quote]

I think everyone should take an IQ test, and if they're stupid, they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. They also obviously need someone to look after them. Perhaps we should have yearly exams where the government culls those deemed unfit to live?


Didn't Hitler try this?
quote=UP-2-IT br As long as folks let themselve... (show quote)


Sounds like a Texans idea to me, at least the reasoning of the above remark reflects that.

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Mar 24, 2013 11:51:13   #
Gnslngr
 
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2013 11:56:56   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we li... (show quote)


I submit that morbid obesity is a disability because it is uncontrollable

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Mar 24, 2013 12:02:53   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we li... (show quote)

I agree Gnslngr. There is a difference between people who make themselves "sick"and people that have a illness or disability from something they have no control over.

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Mar 24, 2013 12:05:39   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
PhotoTex wrote:
Gnslngr wrote:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we li... (show quote)


I submit that morbid obesity is a disability because it is uncontrollable
quote=Gnslngr Obesity is the bane of this America... (show quote)


Morbid obesity is different from most people who just eat too much.

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Mar 24, 2013 12:30:13   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
TrainNut wrote:
PhotoTex wrote:
Gnslngr wrote:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we li... (show quote)


I submit that morbid obesity is a disability because it is uncontrollable
quote=Gnslngr Obesity is the bane of this America... (show quote)


Morbid obesity is different from most people who just eat too much.
quote=PhotoTex quote=Gnslngr Obesity is the bane... (show quote)


Probably. No one wants to be fat. The social stigma is terrible. It hurts job advancement and relationships. In some respects, it is like alcoholism, but the "cure" rate for alcoholism is much higher. Personally, I have lost 100 lbs on 2 occasions and 50 lb on 7 other. I gained it all back.
The recidivism is 95-98%. Only a person who has never had the problem would say, "just eat less"

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Mar 24, 2013 12:33:08   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Remoman wrote:
What are your thoughts on this?
I wonder if this will be legal under various states' privacy and labor laws?

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2013/03/20/17387406-cvs-to-workers-tell-us-how-much-you-weigh-or-itll-cost-you-600-a-year?lite



welcome to the results of Obama care

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Mar 24, 2013 12:40:37   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
PhotoTex wrote:
TrainNut wrote:
PhotoTex wrote:
Gnslngr wrote:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we live in. I have absolutely no problem with the company a person works for requesting that his/her employees stay in shape - it is both good for the employee (extends life, stops the onset of disease, increases happiness, etc.) and it is great for the employer (a lower health insurance cost, a more productive workforce, a better emotional atmosphere - leading to better work results - in the workplace). Of course, I am also very much for hiring those people stricken by illness or disability, and they should be exempt from the most stringent requirements. :thumbup:
Obesity is the bane of this American society we li... (show quote)



I submit that morbid obesity is a disability because it is uncontrollable
quote=Gnslngr Obesity is the bane of this America... (show quote)


Morbid obesity is different from most people who just eat too much.
quote=PhotoTex quote=Gnslngr Obesity is the bane... (show quote)


Probably. No one wants to be fat. The social stigma is terrible. It hurts job advancement and relationships. In some respects, it is like alcoholism, but the "cure" rate for alcoholism is much higher. Personally, I have lost 100 lbs on 2 occasions and 50 lb on 7 other. I gained it all back.
The recidivism is 95-98%. Only a person who has never had the problem would say, "just eat less"
quote=TrainNut quote=PhotoTex quote=Gnslngr Obe... (show quote)

I have had the problem. It is not a matter of "just eat less". You have to change your lifestyle and thinking. I ate when I was tired, nervous, board, when something looked good and other times that had nothing to do with being hungry. I went through counseling to solve the problem, a "diet" won't do it.

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Mar 24, 2013 12:47:39   #
Gnslngr
 
PhotoTex wrote:
I submit that morbid obesity is a disability because it is uncontrollable


I do not agree. Weight can usually be controlled with diet and exercise, no matter how much is gained. Believe me, I know. And, by the way, it simply ain't that hard. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2013 13:03:10   #
Gnslngr
 
TrainNut wrote:

I have had the problem. It is not a matter of "just eat less". You have to change your lifestyle and thinking. I ate when I was tired, nervous, board, when something looked good and other times that had nothing to do with being hungry. I went through counseling to solve the problem, a "diet" won't do it.


This is absolutely correct. Diets are ridiculous. Steady, habitual exercise and hard learned dietary strictures are not only a way to lose weight, but a way to stay healthy and happy. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2013 13:08:53   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
Remoman wrote:
What are your thoughts on this?
I wonder if this will be legal under various states' privacy and labor laws?

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2013/03/20/17387406-cvs-to-workers-tell-us-how-much-you-weigh-or-itll-cost-you-600-a-year?lite



welcome to the results of Obama care


How do you figure that?

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Mar 24, 2013 13:34:34   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Gnslngr wrote:
TrainNut wrote:

I have had the problem. It is not a matter of "just eat less". You have to change your lifestyle and thinking. I ate when I was tired, nervous, board, when something looked good and other times that had nothing to do with being hungry. I went through counseling to solve the problem, a "diet" won't do it.


This is absolutely correct. Diets are ridiculous. Steady, habitual exercise and hard learned dietary strictures are not only a way to lose weight, but a way to stay healthy and happy. :thumbup:
quote=TrainNut br I have had the problem. It is ... (show quote)

And you have to keep it up. That,s why changing your lifestyle helps.
If your friends say "have a donut, have a ice cream, eat this 1 pound hamburger and all these fries then finish this shake"
Just shoot them and be done with the problem and get new friends.

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