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Feb 15, 2013 13:00:52   #
Elfstop
 
CraigB wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
The rest of the story....in the first video the home owner pursues the burglars and fires on them....that's against the law because they were no longer a threat and he should have been charged...I quit watching this bull**** when that loony ass Jesse Ventura started speaking...

And Obama is not anti gun.


Hey Doc ..... that depends on the State your in my friend ..... you've been watching too many metropolitan news casts ..... where I come from that's grounds for huntin em down, ya get a medal for each one you shoot!
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NO State allows you to chase down and shoot a fleeing subject that is NO threat to you or others and kill them or even assault them. I don't know where you come from but there are no places that give out medals for that either.

Not saying it's not a good ideal tho. I am a police officer and in Tennessee it's against the law.

And you have been watching too many Elmer Fudd re-runs from the 30's....lol.
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I am pretty sure that since the perpetrators were all heavily armed that the home owner would face no charges where I live, in fact it is my belief that not only did he have the right and necessity of self defense, that had he not used and continued to the weapon against the four armed men that it is very likely that he and anyone else in that home may have ended up dead...

Glad I live in Florida, you can shot bad guys anywhere.
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Not self defense when they are running AWAY from you..self defense was over the second they ran..Thats florida law too..come on guys get a grip or just shoot someone running away and see what happens.
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That's true from a legal standpoint, but no one is going to charge a homeowner defending his life and property with deadly force against an "army of 4" heavily armed thugs. Even and especially when the homeowner has them on the run. What if he stopped shooting and the thugs had a minute to think and regroup? It is obvious they where out to harm the homeowner with deadly force.

Let's stop defending thugs and defend the rights of our law abiding citizens.
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TOO LATE..YOU VOTED PEOPLE IN THAT DOES THAT FOR YOU.

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Feb 15, 2013 13:02:15   #
Elfstop
 
sundancer2004 wrote:
does this help your perspective


I voted for him and none of that happened...odd.

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Feb 15, 2013 13:07:27   #
CraigB Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Elfstop wrote:

TOO LATE..YOU VOTED PEOPLE IN THAT DOES THAT FOR YOU.

And how would you know who I voted for?

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Feb 15, 2013 13:12:04   #
Elfstop
 
CraigB wrote:
Elfstop wrote:

TOO LATE..YOU VOTED PEOPLE IN THAT DOES THAT FOR YOU.

And how would you know who I voted for?


Hey Doc...

I don't...just saying that if you voted for anyone that helps make or pass laws then you left that in their hands.

So saying "Let's stop defending thugs and defend the rights of our law abiding citizens." is saying it too late. The laws are already on the books.

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Feb 15, 2013 13:14:12   #
Elfstop
 
Frank T wrote:
Think about this. The first video, the homeowner has an extensive surveillance system and assault weapons readily available. He's attacked by three men with assault rifles.
He's either a drug dealer or he lives in Islamabad.
Really. Lot more to this story than it shows.


He was a drug dealer and those guys were ripping him off...

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Feb 15, 2013 13:15:46   #
Elfstop
 
sundancer2004 wrote:
Morrisdh wrote:
Elfstop Just checked your bio out, are you really Joe Biden or
just another left wing nut.


I wonder why all their locations say: In hiding?


All their?...you mean all people that are not republicans? Or all people with the name of elfstop?

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Feb 15, 2013 13:15:49   #
CraigB Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Elfstop wrote:
Frank T wrote:
Think about this. The first video, the homeowner has an extensive surveillance system and assault weapons readily available. He's attacked by three men with assault rifles.
He's either a drug dealer or he lives in Islamabad.
Really. Lot more to this story than it shows.


He was a drug dealer and those guys were ripping him off...


Do you have a reference to this?

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Feb 15, 2013 13:18:52   #
Elfstop
 
Wabbit wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
The rest of the story....in the first video the home owner pursues the burglars and fires on them....that's against the law because they were no longer a threat and he should have been charged...I quit watching this bull**** when that loony ass Jesse Ventura started speaking...

And Obama is not anti gun.


Hey Doc ..... that depends on the State your in my friend ..... you've been watching too many metropolitan news casts ..... where I come from that's grounds for huntin em down, ya get a medal for each one you shoot!
quote=Elfstop The rest of the story....in the fir... (show quote)


NO State allows you to chase down and shoot a fleeing subject that is NO threat to you or others and kill them or even assault them. I don't know where you come from but there are no places that give out medals for that either.

Not saying it's not a good ideal tho. I am a police officer and in Tennessee it's against the law.

And you have been watching too many Elmer Fudd re-runs from the 30's....lol.
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Hey Doc ..... a small ranch here is 30 acres ..... my spread is over 250 ..... perps trespassing carrying long guns as portrayed in that video ..... would be target practice ..... you'd have the right to use deadly physical force .....

..... only an Idiot would say that perps, weapons in hand fleeing or not would be no threat ..... they're holding weapons, they're a threat .....

..... are ya familiar with your Castle Doctrine doc, I don't think that ya are, and I don't think you're a cop, I think you're full of yourself .....

..... go back to bed sucking your thumb dummy, you're now exposed .....
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No you can't shoot perps with long guns for trespassing in any state... target practice ? You are as silly as all that bugs bunny cartoon stuff..

And that doctrine does not apply to trespassers on land...you should stop watching all that outdated bugs bunny silly stuff, grow up and read that doctrine better.

And if you are no older than you act I apologize to your parents.


And Hey Doc...Lol I don't care what you think...
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Hey Doc ..... Hey listen up Barney ..... always wanted to know, do you have a live round in both front pockets or just the right one .....

.....remember Fife, be more careful, impersonating law enforcement is against the law and could get you some jail time .....

..... FYI in addition to a Castle Doctrine we have a very Strong Stand Your Ground Law ..... you may want to look this up to see what it means dummy ..... we don't have home invasions in Arizona ..... even idiots aren't dumb enough .....

..... take out a few perps like in the video, ya get a 18k gold watch, a Las Vegas vacation for 2 at the resort of your choice, and 500 rounds of center fire ammunition ..... all paid for by the State of Arizona .....
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Hey Doc...lol thats so damn stupid I almost can't respond...You can't stand your ground when they are running away across your wacky backy patch. And you said it was legal to kill trespassers. Doc...lol

BTW Doc...my new AV is different than yours...mine is called Black Bama Wabbit...

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Feb 15, 2013 13:32:54   #
Elfstop
 
And before you go crying to the Mods let me point out you "wabbit" started this mess with "Hey Doc ..... a small ranch here is 30 acres ..... my spread is over 250 ..... perps trespassing carrying long guns as portrayed in that video ..... would be target practice ..... you'd have the right to use deadly physical force .....

..... only an Idiot would say that perps, weapons in hand fleeing or not would be no threat ..... they're holding weapons, they're a threat .....

..... are ya familiar with your Castle Doctrine doc, I don't think that ya are, and I don't think you're a cop, I think you're full of yourself .....

..... go back to bed sucking your thumb dummy, you're now exposed .....

So because you was wrong you started calling me names...Doc. Lol thats sill pretty funny. Doc...

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Feb 15, 2013 14:14:13   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
rmclodius47 wrote:
In reference to Elfstops reply "No state" allows you to chase down a criminal..........You are wrong on this. Case in point: Walla Walla Washington, for the second time in ten years, the owner of a local store with a shotgun in hand, shoots a burglar outside in the parking lot as he was fleeing the scene of the crime. The burglar broke into the store through a window and attempted to steel items in a show case. The owner, who was in the back room at the time, several hours before store opening time, heard the person, grabbed his shotgun and shot the burglar as he was trying to leave the scene. The burglar was shot DEAD at the scene out in the parking lot, and the owner DID NOT commit a crime, according to Washington State Law. He had the right to protect himself and his property. No charges were filed and the lawsuit by the burglars parents was dismissed without compensation. This was the second time in 10 years with the same scenario with the same results.
In reference to Elfstops reply "No state"... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... good example doc .....

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Feb 15, 2013 14:18:39   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
CraigB wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
Elfstop wrote:
The rest of the story....in the first video the home owner pursues the burglars and fires on them....that's against the law because they were no longer a threat and he should have been charged...I quit watching this bull**** when that loony ass Jesse Ventura started speaking...

And Obama is not anti gun.


Hey Doc ..... that depends on the State your in my friend ..... you've been watching too many metropolitan news casts ..... where I come from that's grounds for huntin em down, ya get a medal for each one you shoot!
quote=Elfstop The rest of the story....in the fir... (show quote)


NO State allows you to chase down and shoot a fleeing subject that is NO threat to you or others and kill them or even assault them. I don't know where you come from but there are no places that give out medals for that either.

Not saying it's not a good ideal tho. I am a police officer and in Tennessee it's against the law.

And you have been watching too many Elmer Fudd re-runs from the 30's....lol.
quote=Wabbit quote=Elfstop The rest of the story... (show quote)


I am pretty sure that since the perpetrators were all heavily armed that the home owner would face no charges where I live, in fact it is my belief that not only did he have the right and necessity of self defense, that had he not used and continued to the weapon against the four armed men that it is very likely that he and anyone else in that home may have ended up dead...

Glad I live in Florida, you can shot bad guys anywhere.
quote=Elfstop quote=Wabbit quote=Elfstop The re... (show quote)



Not self defense when they are running AWAY from you..self defense was over the second they ran..Thats florida law too..come on guys get a grip or just shoot someone running away and see what happens.
quote=Blurryeyed quote=Elfstop quote=Wabbit qu... (show quote)


That's true from a legal standpoint, but no one is going to charge a homeowner defending his life and property with deadly force against an "army of 4" heavily armed thugs. Even and especially when the homeowner has them on the run. What if he stopped shooting and the thugs had a minute to think and regroup? It is obvious they where out to harm the homeowner with deadly force.

Let's stop defending thugs and defend the rights of our law abiding citizens.
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Hey Doc ..... do ya think it has to be explained to a Police Officer ..... In this case it does, it does doc, cause he's Not a police officer .....

..... so thanks for your help doc .....

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Feb 15, 2013 14:33:32   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Elfstop wrote:
And before you go crying to the Mods let me point out you "wabbit" started this mess with "Hey Doc ..... a small ranch here is 30 acres ..... my spread is over 250 ..... perps trespassing carrying long guns as portrayed in that video ..... would be target practice ..... you'd have the right to use deadly physical force .....

..... only an Idiot would say that perps, weapons in hand fleeing or not would be no threat ..... they're holding weapons, they're a threat .....

..... are ya familiar with your Castle Doctrine doc, I don't think that ya are, and I don't think you're a cop, I think you're full of yourself .....

..... go back to bed sucking your thumb dummy, you're now exposed .....

So because you was wrong you started calling me names...Doc. Lol thats sill pretty funny. Doc...
And before you go crying to the Mods let me point ... (show quote)


Hey Doc ..... me? crying to the mod? ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, yea right .....

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Feb 15, 2013 14:51:32   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Elfstop wrote:
sundancer2004 wrote:
does this help your perspective


I voted for him and none of that happened...odd.


Hey Doc ..... ha,ha,ha,ha,

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Feb 15, 2013 14:54:03   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Elfstop wrote:
sundancer2004 wrote:
Morrisdh wrote:
Elfstop Just checked your bio out, are you really Joe Biden or
just another left wing nut.


I wonder why all their locations say: In hiding?


Yeah at least your info is narrowed down to a STATE.


Hey Doc ..... looks like I got a shadow, ha,ha,ha,ha,

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Feb 15, 2013 14:55:40   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Elfstop wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
Frank T wrote:
Think about this. The first video, the homeowner has an extensive surveillance system and assault weapons readily available. He's attacked by three men with assault rifles.
He's either a drug dealer or he lives in Islamabad.
Really. Lot more to this story than it shows.


Hey Doc ..... he happens to be a Sheriff, looks like we have another dummy on this thread .....


Better than being a dumbass.


Hey Doc ..... ha,ha,ha,ha,

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