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marcomarks
Whether shooting RAW or JPG you have the same amount of pixels of information. While RAW is real data and a JPG includes a percentage of fake recreated pixels, the number of pixels is still the same.
In either case, if you create a file that is 300 ppi per inch horizontally and vertically, the file you print is going to have more ppi than a home printer can print when converted to dots per inch anyway. So a RAW file that has been converted to another format like TIFF or JPG or Whether shooting RAW or JPG you have the same amount of pixels of information.whatever for printing purposes or a JPG should be so similar (assuming you haven't opened and saved the JPG a lot of times) when printed that you likely won't be able to tell the difference between them.
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Oh dear no; you are missing the whole point.
GHK
Your comment is of no consequence unless you elaborate and give your opinion as to why and what point is missed. A 16MP file is a 16MP file when opened whether it's RAW or JPG. What's in the file is certainly different because the JPG process threw away a lot of original data but it still ends up as the same quantity of pixels.
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In either case, if you create a file that is 300 ppi per inch horizontally and vertically, the file you print is going to have more ppi than a home printer can print when converted to dots per inch anyway.
Whether shooting RAW or JPG you have the same amount of pixels of information.
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Dear Marcomarks,
You are quite right to criticise me. I would not normally make a comment without attempting to justify it. The reason, in this instance, was twofold: (a) I was fairly busy and the justification would have been time-consuming;
(b) I have made rather a lot of posts on this general topic over the last few weeks (probably too many) and I felt that I had already said everything that was relevant sometimes more than once).
Nevertheless, I apologise and will attempt to make recompense by addressing the matter in full detail.
Here goes: "Whether shooting RAW or JPG you have the same amount of pixels of information."
There is nothing much wrong with this but it is worth adding a few points.
If you select the 'Raw plus JPG' camera setting, two saves will be loaded to the memory card.
The saved JPG will actually have less pixels than the Raw because it is compressed (downsampled) on saving. Of course the JPG will be resampled up to its original pixel size when you open it into Photoshop or whatever. You obviously recognise that the upsampling requires interpolation of new pixels which are not identical with the ones discarded on compression; I have never seen your phrase "fake recreated pixels" before, but I think that it is an excellent description of what actually happens. I hope you won't mind if you see me use it at some future date!
The other thing about the JPG is that it is processed, to quite a fair extent, before it is first saved in the camera.
the degree and nature of this varies somewhat from camera to camera, but it almore certainly involves adjustment of highlight and shadow points, and of colour values including colour balance.The saved Raw is, as near as is resonably possible (depending to a small extent on manufacturers decisions - the reason why there are so many Raw formats in circulation) an accurate record of what was initially recorded by the digital sensor. The Raw file itself only contains tonal information; hence it has only one channel (greyscale) and is comparatively small. All the other information, notably the colours which require channels, is stored in vector form in sidecar channels, this actually resulting in a reduction in memory requirements. When you try to open the Raw file, it is, strictly speaking, not possible to do so. What you get is an on-screen representation of a file converted to a logarithmic format with all the sidecar information incorporated into it. This file is much larger now and will, more or less, retain its size when saved, especially if the save is in PSD format, which I would definitely recommend.
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"In either case, if you create a file that is 300 ppi per inch horizontally and vertically, the file you print is going to have more ppi than a home printer can print when converted to dots per inch anyway."
I confess that I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Whether a printer can accommodate a 300ppi image or not depends on the file size in pixels. Certainly, even a 24 Mp image from a Sony A900 would have a long side of just over 20 inches; too big even for A3 paper, but you could either increase the ppi (without data loss), or downsize the image using 'Bicubic Sharper' with only minimal loss which would not be detectable in practice.
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"So a RAW file that has been converted to another format like TIFF or JPG or Whether shooting RAW or JPG you have the same amount of pixels of information.whatever for printing purposes or a JPG should be so similar (assuming you haven't opened and saved the JPG a lot of times) when printed that you likely won't be able to tell the difference between them."
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