SHUTERED Loc: SO. CAL.

I believe that part of the problem is the growing frustration the pro 2nd amendment people have with the anti group is the ignorant, or deliberate misinformation delivered to the public. The "news media", helps to feed this by claiming a look alike carbine or assault weapon is the same as a military issued weapon. Its not! They by federal law haven't been legaly buyable since the 30's when the federal government banned the sale of the old Thomson sub machine gun to the public. There is a big difference between a semi automatic and a weapon that is fully automatic.

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

I think what dbur is saying is that when we elect our officials, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution. When they take the oath and don't stick by it year after year, at some point the people are going to say "Enough is enough.".

Keep in mind, when the Constitution was drafted there was quite a bit of discussion concerning which should come first: the right of free speech or the right to keep and bear arms.

Remember, we had just won our freedom from a tyrannical government that banned the ownership of firearms from the colonists in order to keep them in line. The idea was that if ordinary citizens could own guns and the government got out of control, the people could resist.

This is all moot. With the weapons systems that are available to the military today, a hunting rifle might as well be a spitball should the government use the armed forces against a group of fanatics.

Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.

Right on sarge.Glad to know we still have some freedom loving people here and not all are willing to give it all up to an out of control goverment that wants to take it all away. The brainless saps on here may some day get what they want then it will be way too late. We will say we told you so but it will be too late to turn things around. We will never give up our guns without a fight. The none gun onwers will then wish they had kept theirs. Let them ramble on in their unknowing ways. But we will keep up the fight. We will even fight to save their rights even though they are too dumb to do it for themselves. Cheers.

RobertW Loc: Breezy Point, New York

NONE of the killers, whether insane, sane, intelligent or dumb;- would have been able to kill as many innocent people as they did without the assault and rapid-fire weapons they used....No one denies those who choose to have normal weaponry for whatever reason their right to have such weaponry...but I ask once again...Why does anyone need an assault or rapid fire weapon or a clip that can fire 30 times without reload??? Are we expecting an invasion?? How many rounds does it take to shoot a deer or a target??
RobertW

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Read up on tyranny and the 2nd amendment.No brainer after that.

aspliz

I have a screenprinting and sign business. I was just lettering the local library with their hours and a no gun decal. As I was applying the lettering, I thought to myself "how dumb is this?". I am a gun owner with my CCW. I would be the last person that would walk in and open fire and the lettering I applied was not going to stop some nut from walking in and firing a weapon. CRIMINALS DON'T CARE AND THE EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE ARE JUST THAT, UNSTABLE!!!
That kid in CN could just have easily went on the internet, made a few pipe bombs and blown the school sky high.
It's all about common sense. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any of that anymore.
and the government..... don't even get me started, they can't even balance a checkbook and the rules they make are for us not them.

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

Tyranny? I can understand sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you, but tyranny in Alaska? Maybe you were planning on shooting Sarah Pallen? Lately the only thing that really needs shooting is the tv set when all that's on are reality TV shows, untalent contests, faith healing religious prognasticators,HSN and FOX or CNN news which I consider to be theater of the obsurd..

UXOEOD

I am beginning to understand after reading all this extremely well stated opinion from you Gun-phobic liberals. I am considering painting all my guns pink, stenceling them with hearts and cute little bunny rabbits.
Where they currently are labled "MANUAL/SEMI-AUTO" I am going to white out the Semi-Auto and write Manual+ instead. Then they won't be so scary, and you out there who think with your feelings instead of you brains won't have to be so afraid!

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marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL

What you don't seem to understand is that this is a black and white issue. There is no gray area. There can be no compromise. Anti-gunners are idiots with no logic who think that a police force who gets to a location in 15 to 45 minutes is enough to stop a criminal act that happened in less than 5 minutes. Gun owners know better and that's why they own guns.

Either we have the Constitutional right to own and bear ALL types and sizes of guns (fully automatic weapons are already banned anyway) or Liberals will definitely twist the Constitution's meaning and start removing the right to own some types of guns (Step 1), then later boost that leverage into removing the right to own some others (Step 2), then increase that to eliminate semi-auto ammunition clips down to only four or five rounds each and require registration of them (Step 3), then take the right to have more than 25 rounds of ammunition in your possession (Step 4), etc. until they finally take everything except bird caliber pea-shooter shotguns and put ALL the law-abiding American public in eminent danger of criminal and terrorist attack at a level never before seen in history. The 2nd Amendment is then completely gone but it was taken bite by bite instead of all at once. That's how Liberals work their rights attacks.

There is a female Congressman from New Hampshire who has the brass balls to present a law for consideration that would ban Conservatives from settling in her state (based on previous voting history apparently) and allow the state to expel Conservatives because they suppress the progress that the government could achieve if Conservatives weren't present. What the hell? Is that Democracy? Is that compromise? Is that Constitutional? Is that even patriotic or American? How big of a step would it be for her to then present and get a law passed by her all-Liberal state government to expel all gun owners from her state and confiscate ALL their possessions by government eminent domain? Does anybody see that as no longer being a Democracy?

We gun owners must fight to keep everything intact as it is today or this Socialist complete de-arming of our citizenry will be the result. If those in the middle don't believe that, so be it. It's fact. If those in the middle can see through the media wool thrown over their eyes and join us, then good for them.

Liberals know that the owners of 300 million guns in the U.S. would stand up in defiance against an all-out cancellation of the 2nd Amendment but they are sleepy and don't notice when a right is being chipped away a little at a time. The NRA and other staunch 2nd Amendment supporters know in advance what Liberals are up to and MUST stand firm against it starting or we end up as a bunch of sitting ducks waiting to be picked off by criminals just like you are.

As is repeated over and over but people like you don't grasp - if the government take guns, any or all, away from the law-abiding citizenry, law-abiding innocents are then at the mercy of law-breaking criminals who still have abundant illegal weaponry to use for criminal purposes.

If carrying a handgun legally makes me feel more powerful and more resistant to criminal activity, that's the point. I have a wife and two year old toddler and whenever we leave this house near dark, I always carry concealed. Depending on where we're going I carry concealed in the daytime too. When held at gun point during a robbery by a sociopathic PCP drug user who may just shoot us all after the robbery so we can't identify him, I desperately need something equally as lethal as his illegal gun to save my family. That is not a stick, band director's whistle, or pepper spray. If two or three invaders use an axe on my front door and comes in with shotguns or large caliber revolvers, I want the power to stop the intrusion.

If you have a wife and children, and truly love them more than yourself or a fairy tale pacifist ideology - like a husband and father should, you prepare to protect them from potential death or severe physical impairment with lethal power just like I do.

No government has the right to only allow me to use a single shot 28" barrel bird-caliber shotgun that has to be reloaded after each shot when there are 3 or 4 attackers confronting me - but that's what they want to achieve - either in one fell swoop which the public would not allow - or piece by piece which much of the public wouldn't notice.

It's clear with terms you use, such as gun owners being Rambo, that you are a pacifist Liberal, so quit hiding behind a "supposedly" undecided position. I do not change personality over guns but I have the right to become angered by those who would confiscate my guns and allow my family to be killed because I have no way of protecting us.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

We are taxed for being born now=tyranny,care to discuss that?
No bears where I'm located.
No it is wrong to suggest people should shoot Sarah Palin.
I have already killed my television.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

I forgot, which TV news do you frequent or believe?

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

Well you'll sure fit in the social circles in PORTLANDIA anyway. And you'd look great with your guns in PINK and those hearts & bunnies all over them on the cover of GUNS & AMMO. Might set a new trend in camaflage. I'm still expectantly waiting for the explanation of what you're so affraid of other than your freinds and neighbors when they see you in that getup.

UXOEOD

Better a pink gun than no gun!

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

And how about the annual stippend you receive for being a resident of Alaska from the Federal Government? That should easily cover your so called "birth tax", and what the hell is that anyway?

hobbycam Loc: Now in "Hollister, Ca."

Good post :-)
I for one do not believe that the police can protect us and family.
But they are very good statistic takers.
Wont do me or my family any good as a statistic.

I am an American citizen, Gun owner, Nra Member and a Navy vet (Seal retired )
May God Bless :-)