If you have Photoshop, you can duplicate the layer and apply the Screen blending mode to the new layer.
Having very little to add to the excellent answers, I'll just say that my approach would be to take several exposures and work on the PP. The highly overexposed ones for the light areas generally are worthless for the pot-processing. I tried to do the best I could with the picture that has already been the subject of a number of good versions in this thread. As our eye is a camera with auto-focus, I don't mind to put in pictures the cerebral synthesis of several takes from the eyes In this image the synthesis was not possible because the camera really never focused on the brightest area.
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.
If your camera has exposure lock, lock it onto the room and not the window you will get overexposed or washed out windows but for a quick shot is best rather than a dark shot of the room. most people don't have time with HDR for a shot like this but if you want a perfectly exposed shot of room and window detail then a good way of doing it. Fill flash is a good way of lighting the room with out overexposing the window detail. Or just pull the curtains for a quick fix.
dandij
Loc: Hoodsport, Washington
Here is my effort on your shot. I ran this through several programs and came back with it like this.
Dan :D
marty wild wrote:
with photo shop curves it requires very little knowledge
MarthaMary wrote:
bobbym wrote:
hope this helps
How did you do that?????
THANK you! I have Corel, not Adobe, so I'll have to translate. It's much better!
PhotoArtsLA wrote:
Here's a bit of a fix. No Noise Reduction. No filters. Just math.
EVERYTHING that happens inside a computer is "just math" (including filters, NR, HDR, etc.)
planepics
Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
I have PS7 given to me by a retired catalog photographer who is in my photo club, which I have occasionally tried to confuse myself with (I need a course or a "dummies" book)and whatever came with my camera, but most of the time I use Picasa. I'll try to work on the pic myself in the different programs and see which works better. Most of the time, my pics turn out pretty good.
i have tried to brighten it up a bit for you
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.
Another possibility since it is a static display would have been to take the picture at a different time of day..... No real equipment change will be necessary.... Just my 2cents worth
I'm sitting here scratching my head, trying to figure out how to ask this tactfully...but I'll just come right out and ask.
Do any of you that pp'd planepics photo really think you improved it? I mean looking at the small shots posted, many look passable, but when you look at the downloads, they are full of noise, color noise, artifacts, etc. With those kind of issues none of them are really improvements.
I'm not trying to be rude, and I realize planepics was just making a test shot, but it seems a futile exercise to attempt to make a repair to a photo so underexposed and post, for the most part, what seems like mostly failed attempts.
Read most of the comments, all will accomplish your goal.
Take 2 shots with camera on legs, 1st exposure for the windows with the 2nd exposure for the inside room. Layer them in photoshop and erase the dark area or the light area, which ever is easiest for you. You'll then have exactly what you want. Because of the simplicity of the window or room it would be extremely easy and only take moments in photoshop.
CanonFire wrote:
I'm sitting here scratching my head, trying to figure out how to ask this tactfully...but I'll just come right out and ask.
Do any of you that pp'd planepics photo really think you improved it? I mean looking at the small shots posted, many look passable, but when you look at the downloads, they are full of noise, color noise, artifacts, etc. With those kind of issues none of them are really improvements.
I'm not trying to be rude, and I realize planepics was just making a test shot, but it seems a futile exercise to attempt to make a repair to a photo so underexposed and post, for the most part, what seems like mostly failed attempts.
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Not trying to be rude either but who are you to question if there were any improvements...you did not ask the question.
Jack47 wrote:
CanonFire wrote:
I'm sitting here scratching my head, trying to figure out how to ask this tactfully...but I'll just come right out and ask.
Do any of you that pp'd planepics photo really think you improved it? I mean looking at the small shots posted, many look passable, but when you look at the downloads, they are full of noise, color noise, artifacts, etc. With those kind of issues none of them are really improvements.
I'm not trying to be rude, and I realize planepics was just making a test shot, but it seems a futile exercise to attempt to make a repair to a photo so underexposed and post, for the most part, what seems like mostly failed attempts.
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Not trying to be rude either but who are you to question if there were any improvements...you did not ask the question.
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Well Jack, no need to get your panties in a bunch. It doesn't matter if I asked "the question". I'm someone who didn't see much improvement in most the attempts, and I'm curious to find out if anyone really looked at the end result of their attempts and saw the same things I saw, like lots of noise, some artifacting, etc. Most of the attempts did lighten the photo at the expense of tone and detail, and I don't see that as an improvement.
At the expense of sounding extremely cheap I have used blank note cards with pop-up flashes to try to balance out light by bouncing the light off of ceilings/walls to balance out the light to get the desired effect. It also works to compensate some for rooms lit by halogen bulbs. It takes a little manual dexterity but in a pinch it works. The nice thing about digital is you are not spending time/$$$ in a darkroom to get the desired effect.
planepics
Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
Some of the attempts to save my pics were pretty good, and some, um.....not so much. I tried to play with P7, but I can't figure it out. I tried brightness/contrast, but I couldn't get it to look good and I don't understand curves. I did this with Picasa by adding fill light. It's still dark, but any more and it put in a whole bunch of noise. If I try a pic like this again, I will wither pull the shades, expose for the room, or wait until dark!
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