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Jan 1, 2013 13:29:05   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.



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Jan 1, 2013 13:35:20   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


You could try this as an HDR: Camera on tripod and with camera in aperture priority (or manual), and using auto exposure bracketing (AEB), take 5 to 7 shots. Combine using HDR software such as Photomatix Pro (trial downloads available that leave watermark).

Or you could expose for the room and the window highlights will be blown...

Or add artificial light: off-camera flash bounced off the ceiling if its white.

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Jan 1, 2013 13:40:53   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


off camera Flash, or pop up flash and last resort meter the room.

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Jan 1, 2013 13:42:58   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
How did you meter? Are you using an auto or programmed mode? For something like this you need to use manual and meter off the tree and recompose the shot (don't adjust your settings) and click. Of course you are going to end up with blown out highlights, but this is the easiest way to do it. If you want to have everything exposed correctly, you need to bring in an off camera flash and multiple exposures all blended together in an hdr program.

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Jan 1, 2013 13:44:46   #
wolfman
 
I would try bouncing a flash off the ceiling to try and light up the interior without blowing out the highlights. I did a little PP and will post if you like.

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Jan 1, 2013 14:05:22   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


off camera Flash, or pop up flash and last resort meter the room.


Maybe I should have used the pop-up flash...I don't own any other kind, although I have thought about getting a cheap Bower (don't want a flash that cost as much as the camera...rather save the money for lenses. I could have tried HDR, but didn't want to set up my tripod. Stupid question #2. I've heard lots of people talk about re-composing a shot after focusing or metering (I don't own a meter either...just use the camera's automatic one). Does that mean actually moving back and forth from one position to another while holding the shutter button half-way down?

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Jan 1, 2013 14:13:42   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
FLASH

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Jan 1, 2013 14:36:34   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
planepics wrote:
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


off camera Flash, or pop up flash and last resort meter the room.


Maybe I should have used the pop-up flash...I don't own any other kind, although I have thought about getting a cheap Bower (don't want a flash that cost as much as the camera...rather save the money for lenses. I could have tried HDR, but didn't want to set up my tripod. Stupid question #2. I've heard lots of people talk about re-composing a shot after focusing or metering (I don't own a meter either...just use the camera's automatic one). Does that mean actually moving back and forth from one position to another while holding the shutter button half-way down?
quote=Curtis_Lowe quote=planepics How does one g... (show quote)


RE: #2
Holding the shutter half way down in a way to lock the focus. Exposure would need to be adjusted via exposure compensation: either replicating the f/stop and shutter duration and switching to Manual or by using the exposure compensation dial to replicate the exposure reading from a scene, not including the window, in this example. You'll still blow the highlights.

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Jan 1, 2013 14:55:49   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
wolfman wrote:
I would try bouncing a flash off the ceiling to try and light up the interior without blowing out the highlights. I did a little PP and will post if you like.


I was also going to suggest post processing if the photo has some meaning to you and could not be retaken. 8-)

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Jan 1, 2013 15:15:17   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
D-lighting can help...but in this case...its just too much under exposed...use your flash next time if you can.



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Jan 1, 2013 15:17:42   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
WOW...looking at it on here....I think I could have pushed it maybe a little more....still looks to dark.

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Jan 1, 2013 15:23:51   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


Planepics, your stupid question is actually one half of the Holy Grail of photography. Bryan Peterson makes a good living explaining it in his books.
"Balancing the light" as it is called, is a skill that when understood, and one has acquired the knowledge and equipment to execute at will, is actually ready to become a professional, if one were to choose to do so.
You will get much good advise here, to move you in that direction. And you will see it is no simple feat, or have any simple answers.
The other half is composition, but that is a whole other story.
Very good question. Good luck

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Jan 1, 2013 15:25:12   #
Curtis_Lowe Loc: Georgia
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
planepics wrote:
Curtis_Lowe wrote:
planepics wrote:
How does one go about setting up the exposure of a shot when there is such a huge difference in light values? See example.


off camera Flash, or pop up flash and last resort meter the room.


Maybe I should have used the pop-up flash...I don't own any other kind, although I have thought about getting a cheap Bower (don't want a flash that cost as much as the camera...rather save the money for lenses. I could have tried HDR, but didn't want to set up my tripod. Stupid question #2. I've heard lots of people talk about re-composing a shot after focusing or metering (I don't own a meter either...just use the camera's automatic one). Does that mean actually moving back and forth from one position to another while holding the shutter button half-way down?
quote=Curtis_Lowe quote=planepics How does one g... (show quote)


RE: #2
Holding the shutter half way down in a way to lock the focus. Exposure would need to be adjusted via exposure compensation: either replicating the f/stop and shutter duration and switching to Manual or by using the exposure compensation dial to replicate the exposure reading from a scene, not including the window, in this example. You'll still blow the highlights.
quote=planepics quote=Curtis_Lowe quote=planepi... (show quote)


Also your should check to see if your metering a spot instestead of average.

Then recompose, you will loose the detail in the windows from being blown out.

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Jan 1, 2013 15:32:33   #
Trevor Dennis Loc: New Zealand (South Island)
 
You could do what realestate photographers do, and pick the time when the ambient light outside matches the artificial light inside. They bring their own bulbs along to the shoot to avoid WB problems, but the interious still tend to look a little warm.

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Jan 1, 2013 15:57:20   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
The pic has no meaning. It was a random, experimental shot. Brett's treatment looks a lot better, if not a bit grainy.

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