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Dec 31, 2012 11:46:10   #
Bensson Loc: Maple Ridge/Athabasca Oil Sands
 
I have an app on my iPhone called Skywatch. I use it to track the planets path over the period of day or night. If you touch a planter it will show you their path. If you follow along the pathline it will show you the approximate time that planet will be at that point. I use it for sunlight angles in canyons and such. its pretty accurate and inexpensive if you pay the upgrade to avoid ad banners.

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Dec 31, 2012 11:52:53   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
Izza1967 wrote:
Some of you just don't get it do you :(

If you live in the concrete jungle and have no view as such there is no point in looking out of the window as the horizon, which is really the view you want for a sunrise/set, is not available.

Why do you have to try and be funny instead of helping?


I agree 100%. I just don't get the sarcasm in this forum sometimes.

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Dec 31, 2012 11:56:13   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
You didn't give your location for the desired sunrise, so I assumed it was your Pittsburgh. Given that it is a different place and involving a good distance, about the only thing that sounds viable is the weather report for that area. If the prediction is partly cloudy and with the cloud mass moving in from the East, your chances of capturing a good sunrise are greater.

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Dec 31, 2012 11:57:23   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
Bwright wrote:
Any suggestions on how to predict whether there will be a nice sunrise?

some mornings there is a beautiful red sky, or a bright sun; other mornings are less picturesque.

I have tried reading the cloud maps the night prior -- that doesn't seem to help too much.

any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks


The problem with checking weather maps the night before is that conditions change too rapidly. How many times have we had a nice clear night without a cloud in sight, only to wake up to a gray sky. Personally, I believe it's just the luck of the draw. You just have to pick some early mornings and go out. Some will be good, others not.

I will say, though, in most instances if no clouds are predicted the next day, you would probably waste your time. But even that does not always hold true.

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Dec 31, 2012 11:58:18   #
dickparkans Loc: Arizona
 
Izza1967 wrote:
dickparkans wrote:
Izza1967 wrote:
Some of you just don't get it do you :(

If you live in the concrete jungle and have no view as such there is no point in looking out of the window as the horizon, which is really the view you want for a sunrise/set, is not available.

Why do you have to try and be funny instead of helping?


GOOD GRIEF!!! Lighten up


Another useless post :D


Thank you for your words of advice and Happy New Year

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Dec 31, 2012 12:02:22   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Ralloh wrote:
Bwright wrote:
Any suggestions on how to predict whether there will be a nice sunrise?

some mornings there is a beautiful red sky, or a bright sun; other mornings are less picturesque.

I have tried reading the cloud maps the night prior -- that doesn't seem to help too much.

any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks


The problem with checking weather maps the night before is that conditions change too rapidly. How many times have we had a nice clear night without a cloud in sight, only to wake up to a gray sky. Personally, I believe it's just the luck of the draw. You just have to pick some early mornings and go out. Some will be good, others not.

I will say, though, in most instances if no clouds are predicted the next day, you would probably waste your time. But even that does not always hold true.
quote=Bwright Any suggestions on how to predict w... (show quote)


With sunrise or sunset there is a small window of time when it's just the right lighting. Changes so fast that you spend hours getting to a location and waiting in the dark (sunrise) and hope for the best. Then it's gone before you know it.



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Dec 31, 2012 12:02:58   #
GAClowers Loc: Tacoma, Washington
 
Bwright wrote:
Any suggestions on how to predict whether there will be a nice sunrise?

some mornings there is a beautiful red sky, or a bright sun; other mornings are less picturesque.

I have tried reading the cloud maps the night prior -- that doesn't seem to help too much.

any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks


At my location, I simply look east off my deck at the proper time. Often I am rewarded with a spectacle. Here is the final sunrise of 2012 on Mt. Rainier.

Final display of the year
Final display of the year...

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Dec 31, 2012 12:03:19   #
Izza1967 Loc: Bristol, England
 
dickparkans wrote:
Izza1967 wrote:
dickparkans wrote:
Izza1967 wrote:
Some of you just don't get it do you :(

If you live in the concrete jungle and have no view as such there is no point in looking out of the window as the horizon, which is really the view you want for a sunrise/set, is not available.

Why do you have to try and be funny instead of helping?


GOOD GRIEF!!! Lighten up




Another useless post :D


Thank you for your words of advice and Happy New Year
quote=Izza1967 quote=dickparkans quote=Izza1967... (show quote)


I am confused as I didn't offer any words of advice but Happy New Year to you too :D

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Dec 31, 2012 12:06:05   #
Izza1967 Loc: Bristol, England
 
Must have to look into moving I think.

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Dec 31, 2012 12:06:41   #
videop Loc: Florida
 
For those of us photogs that live in Florida we generally get over 300 days of beautiful sunrises and sunsets, so it's pretty predictable. When I lived in the North east, I would just rise early and look for nice clear sky just as the sun was lighting the sky. Check weather radar the evening before. Good chance you'll get lucky.

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Dec 31, 2012 12:10:17   #
mickeys Loc: Fort Wayne, IN
 
birdie, that picture just quacks me up! :-P

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Dec 31, 2012 12:11:09   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
General - Depends on the clouds, and/or amount of water vapor in the air.

Special - Watch the news. The sunrises after the Iceland volcano went off were something special. Forest fires can do the same thing by putting large amounts smoke in the air.

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Dec 31, 2012 12:18:56   #
LaughBrian Loc: Tn
 
Bwright wrote:
Any suggestions on how to predict whether there will be a nice sunrise?

some mornings there is a beautiful red sky, or a bright sun; other mornings are less picturesque.

I have tried reading the cloud maps the night prior -- that doesn't seem to help too much.

any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks


That is a problem with this forum. they get stuck in a nich and dont really read what you ask. ask about an upgrade to a diff camera and you will get 10 post asking what the new camera can do that your old one wont, and they get stuck there lol. I would find the best site on the net for up to the min forcast. i understand you cant stick your head out the window and see,,we all dont live out in the country.

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Dec 31, 2012 12:21:12   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
This is a little off subject but can apply to sunrise/sunset photos.
http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php?topic=19280.0

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Dec 31, 2012 12:24:01   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Bwright wrote:
Any suggestions on how to predict whether there will be a nice sunrise?

some mornings there is a beautiful red sky, or a bright sun; other mornings are less picturesque.

I have tried reading the cloud maps the night prior -- that doesn't seem to help too much.

any suggestions would be appreciated

thanks


The long range weather forcasts of late have been helpful and there's always the National Weather Service. The shades of color are the result of impurities in the air and water crystals at high altitudes in or around cold Cirrus clouds that refract light when hit at oblique angles. Look for cold fronts at high altitudes in your case.
You'll have a tough time finding a clear area if you're in Pitsburgh though. It's gotten much better recently though since the smoke and dust output has been reduced from your smelting plants.

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