No more Cartoons (Page 2): I think the real abuse is among copyright holders. I've heard of individuals being sued for thousands of dollars for downloading a song or two.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I think the real abuse is among copyright holders. I've heard of individuals being sued for thousands of dollars for downloading a song or two.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I collect cartoons from the internet. I send them to a zoom lunch group that I am a member of. I see this as being within the fair use provision of the copyright. I don’t profit from the use.

So is there a significant difference between a zoom lunch group and a forum? No monetary gain in either case.

cbabcock

There is a fair use exception. However, the best practice is to watch what we post, and not violate someone's copyright just because we won't get caught.

Chiroman8

fourlocks wrote:

Generally, copyright protection is to ensure an ar... (show quote)

Dear fourlocks,

Are you familiar with,Open Space Institute ?

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

The original dates from around 850AD so I think the copyright has expired. Roughly translated: “that passed, may this also”.

therwol Loc: USA

jerryc41 wrote:

I won't be posting any more cartoons or comics. Since they are copyrighted, that could be a problem. Play it safe and don't post anything that might be copyrighted.

This is a message I got from Admin about a Far Side cartoon I posted in a thread a few months ago. The position of UHH on this is very clear. Debating this will get you nowhere.

"This is an automated notice.

Your post inside topic "The Far Side" was deleted.

Action comment: image copyright. repeated copyright infringements will lead to account suspension.

Deleted post:"

HamBar06 Loc: Philadelphia, PA

jerryc41 wrote:

I won't be posting any more cartoons or comics. Since they are copyrighted, that could be a problem. Play it safe and don't post anything that might be copyrighted.

I have been sharing clips and cartoons for "private "and community web sites since the mid-sixties. Unless there has been a change in the laws, it seemed to me that material in the public domain that did not result in economic gain for the re-user was never a legal problem.

HamBar06

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jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

DirtFarmer wrote:

The original dates from around 850AD so I think the copyright has expired. Roughly translated: “that passed, may this also”.

"I think" is not a legal defense. 🤣

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

HamBar06 wrote:

I have been sharing clips and cartoons for "private "and community web sites since the mid-sixties. Unless there has been a change in the laws, it seemed to me that material in the public domain that did not result in economic gain for the re-user was never a legal problem.

HamBar06

On UHH, Admin sets the rules.

HamBar06 Loc: Philadelphia, PA

jerryc41 wrote:

On UHH, Admin sets the rules.

What does Admin plan to rule on this question? and when?
Hambar06

charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.

fourlocks wrote:

Generally, copyright protection is to ensure an ar... (show quote)

This goes further to convince me that there are A/H's in any company.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

HamBar06 wrote:

What does Admin plan to rule on this question? and when?
Hambar06

Another member got a message -

"Action comment: image copyright. repeated copyright infringements will lead to account suspension.

Deleted post:"

I'm going to play it safe.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

charles tabb wrote:

This goes further to convince me that there are A/H's in any company.

In some places more than others. I'm on a couple of other forums, and there is none of this nonsense. I've seen members apologize because they thought a comment might have been taken the wrong way.

Courtesy takes no effort. If you want to be mean, you have to work at it.

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

jerryc41 wrote:

In some places more than others. I'm on a couple of other forums, and there is none of this nonsense. I've seen members apologize because they thought a comment might have been taken the wrong way.

Courtesy takes no effort. If you want to be mean, you have to work at it.

That's partly true but I've seen only one forum over the last 40 years where almost no "vitriol" took place. It was a very small group of around 30-40 people participating and only about 10 of them on a daily basis. Nowhere near the participation on here.

People can easily get their hackles up over almost anything. There is a huge difference between talking in person and the written word. Body and facial expressions are absent in the written communication and many (most) people are anything but experts in the written word.

A few actually try to be insulting, but most just don't recognize how they sound in writing. I've been doing this a long time and I still have to work hard not to be offending. More than once I've gone back and read a post I made and think, my, that was a bit harsh...

I don't try too hard if I think someone is trying to be offensive. Life on the forums is not always sugar and spice, and as been said a few million times, you need a thick skin.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

therwol wrote:

This is a message I got from Admin about a Far Side cartoon I posted in a thread a few months ago. The position of UHH on this is very clear. Debating this will get you nowhere.

"This is an automated notice.

Your post inside topic "The Far Side" was deleted.

Action comment: image copyright. repeated copyright infringements will lead to account suspension.

Deleted post:"

I received the same pm from Admin for the same thread.

I sent him a link to a newly posted comic by another member and asked if all cartoons/comics were included. His reply:

"I can't give you legal advice. Each user is responsible for following all laws, including copyright."