Wyantry wrote:
I am interested in your remark about this as an “opinion piece” — as the opinion portion (by Mulvaney) was the ‘explanation’ of the harm being inflicted by Biden, et. al.. The rest was only mine, and marked in bold type.
The FACTS of the inflation are NOT opinion, these are HISTORIC DATA.
It may be that product (or service) demand drives inflationary pricing, but POLICIES set in place by governments may affect supply and be a primary cause of price increases.
These policies as emplaced by the current (Biden) administration have already negatively affected many, many people.
It is not all “demand vs. supply”. Laws, regulations and policies have a major influence as well.
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I respect Mick Mulvaney, but this piece is just a GOP talking point of anti-regulations. He did not mention a single case of a regulation as causation of current inflation. He did mention the just passed bill to get rid of forever chemicals in our water which, in his opinion, MAY increase prices and if wages and less taxes for lower income don't rise proportionately, MAY cause inflation. He did not mention the government spending, he did not mention minimum wage increases, he did not mention trumps 2017 tax repeal for the rich nor his desire to extend it, he did nor mention wars, he did not mention avian flu, he did not mention corporate greed. He picked one element of inflation and then failed to support his argument with a single fact-based cause and effect results example. It did not include a single Biden policy that has been the cause of inflation, yet that was his hypothesis.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Wyantry wrote:
I am interested in your remark about this as an “opinion piece” — as the opinion portion (by Mulvaney) was the ‘explanation’ of the harm being inflicted by Biden, et. al.. The rest was only mine, and marked in bold type.
The FACTS of the inflation are NOT opinion, these are HISTORIC DATA.
It may be that product (or service) demand drives inflationary pricing, but POLICIES set in place by governments may affect supply and be a primary cause of price increases.
These policies as emplaced by the current (Biden) administration have already negatively affected many, many people.
It is not all “demand vs. supply”. Laws, regulations and policies have a major influence as well.
I am interested in your remark about this as an “o... (
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Then why was inflation not way up when Reagan “tripled “ the nation debt or when trump raised it by $8 trillion in just four years . Inflation is driven unbalanced supply. Demand
Triple G wrote:
Not exactly at the roof anymore - you're using old news to stir up new "the sky is falling" rhetoric.
Inflation is coming down at about the same trajectory as it went up. Energy and food are still the most volatile. Still too high, but I'm hopeful when seeing it trending down as it is. Not fast enough, but there is a fine line between soft landing and recession for this post covid economy. Yes, it is Bidenomics!
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/cpi-report-today-inflation-stock-market-04-10-2024Not exactly at the roof anymore - you're using old... (
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Sorry I’m really late to the thread, but the phrase ‘inflation is coming down’ is either ignorant or deceptive. Inflation is a measure of the rate at which prices are increasing. Seeing the inflation stats at lower numbers means only that the increase in prices is less rapid. Only a negative value would show inflation actually coming ‘down’ in the way that would actually benefit anyone.
That the inflation stats are lower than a few months back is not ‘good’ news, but rather only less severe bad news. Imagine it in a different setting: “Good news Mr Doe. Your brain tumor is still inoperable, but it is growing more slowly than it was six weeks ago.”
Triple G wrote:
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Gee, you're ruining many of the cute little trumpette sound bites.
Tex-s wrote:
Sorry I’m really late to the thread, but the phrase ‘inflation is coming down’ is either ignorant or deceptive. Inflation is a measure of the rate at which prices are increasing. Seeing the inflation stats at lower numbers means only that the increase in prices is less rapid. Only a negative value would show inflation actually coming ‘down’ in the way that would actually benefit anyone.
That the inflation stats are lower than a few months back is not ‘good’ news, but rather only less severe bad news. Imagine it in a different setting: “Good news Mr Doe. Your brain tumor is still inoperable, but it is growing more slowly than it was six weeks ago.”
Sorry I’m really late to the thread, but the phras... (
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”Seeing the inflation stats at lower numbers means only that the increase in prices is less rapid. . .
. . . That the inflation stats are lower than a few months back is not ‘good’ news, but rather only less severe bad news.
And this is EXACTLY what Biden and Democrats refuse to admit!
Tex-s wrote:
Sorry I’m really late to the thread, but the phrase ‘inflation is coming down’ is either ignorant or deceptive. Inflation is a measure of the rate at which prices are increasing. Seeing the inflation stats at lower numbers means only that the increase in prices is less rapid. Only a negative value would show inflation actually coming ‘down’ in the way that would actually benefit anyone.
That the inflation stats are lower than a few months back is not ‘good’ news, but rather only less severe bad news. Imagine it in a different setting: “Good news Mr Doe. Your brain tumor is still inoperable, but it is growing more slowly than it was six weeks ago.”
Sorry I’m really late to the thread, but the phras... (
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While true, the opposite could be said that although the "experts" were proclaiming long term run away inflation and recession less than two years ago, they are now saying soft landing, robust economy with encouraging GDP growth, low unemployment, job growth, lower inflation rate closer to the 2% goal and wage growth.
To rephrase your analogy. The specialists declared the patient's imminent death, but now is telling the patient that he is no longer terminal and that the treatments are working more quickly than originally predicted and that a full recovery is possible if the current treatments are continued. You can keep your half empty glass and I'll keep my half full glass with continual refills.
Wyantry wrote:
”Seeing the inflation stats at lower numbers means only that the increase in prices is less rapid. . .
. . . That the inflation stats are lower than a few months back is not ‘good’ news, but rather only less severe bad news.
And this is EXACTLY what Biden and Democrats refuse to admit!
From a guy who believes a fluff piece has some significance, you show yourself as part of the problem and not the solution. There are always naysayers who avoid the stats of good news, and say but, but, but and whatabout.
Look at the details:
No one is saying that there aren't portions of the economy that are struggling. Look at the reasons.
Home and car insurance at 20-30% renewal rates,
Beef prices up due to environmental issues.
Chicken and egg prices up due to Avian flu.
Rentals and home ownership costs are way too high due to shortage of housing and relatively high interest rates. (I bought our first home during 10-12% inflation rates so your boo hoo hoo about 7% doesn't phase me.)
There is very little that any administration can do to make immediate impact on any of those things.
DennyT wrote:
And the answer is ??????
Easy...vote Trump 2024. Obviously POS Biden hasn't a clue. Anybody would be better than Biden. Hell, you would be better than Biden and Trump would run rings around you.
Dennis
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
dennis2146 wrote:
Easy...vote Trump 2024. Obviously POS Biden hasn't a clue. Anybody would be better than Biden. Hell, you would be better than Biden and Trump would run rings around you.
Dennis
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