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Apr 12, 2024 13:41:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DebAnn wrote:
…When you want to post a photo to UHH, in the Gallery or somewhere else, how about explaining why you like it and why you think it’s worth showing. If we all understood that, we would probably view your photos in a different light.


Context is everything. Thanks for asking folks to say it about their photography! I often hear music on YouTube with somewhat cryptic lyrics. People react to it, trying to explain the verse. Sometimes, professional psychologists do entire analyses on songs. Then, occasionally we get lucky and read the musician's own explanation of what he or she wrote, and it is a LOT more down to earth, OR a lot more bizarre! Other times, the musician will wait around for people to analyze, then say, coyly, "Think what you want, if it means something to you, that's what it means!"

Frankly, I like to know the story behind a song… or a photograph!

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Apr 12, 2024 13:57:21   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Rick from NY wrote:
You seem to be making my point. When someone mentioned that the image looked a little soft, you didn’t mind the critique, especially since you knew it was so due to shooting through glass. I posted my original rant several years ago after I replied (POLITELY) to a Gallery post suggesting that a background was too cluttered and stepping left or right a few steps would have improved the shot and I got slammed (NOT so politely) for daring to offer criticism in that forum. If your ego can’t take a well intended suggestion, you should consider not posting.
You seem to be making my point. When someone ment... (show quote)


I agree with you about gushing over a technically poor photo. I also understand rules. Which in this day and age is becoming a rarity. A lot of people think rules are made to be bent or broken. So maybe the people who gush about what you consider a poor photo are just as ignorant of what a so called technically correct photo is as the poster. Or maybe they really don't care about the technically correct idea and just love the photo. Since everyone has different likes ,tastes, and preferences. So although I agree with your original post. My thoughts are you are wrong. It's the gallery that no critique is allowed. There is a gallery that allows or requires critique. I imagine you are a very capable photographer. I also imagine that your personal standards don't matter in the photo gallery. Lol. So just continue doing as you prefer and allow others to comment as they prefer. If people want criticism or critique there is a place for them too.

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Apr 12, 2024 13:58:20   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
DebAnn wrote:

Here’s an idea for you all. When you want to post a photo to UHH, in the Gallery or somewhere else, how about explaining why you like it and why you think it’s worth showing. If we all understood that, we would probably view your photos in a different light.


I see a lot of photos where the implication is "You might enjoy visiting here someday."

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Apr 12, 2024 14:58:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
therwol wrote:
I see a lot of photos where the implication is "You might enjoy visiting here someday."


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Apr 12, 2024 21:04:38   #
srt101fan
 
Bill_de wrote:
This section is for posting pictures you took. If you want to ask others to comment on your choice of subjects, composition, settings, show off your pictures to others, or ask for general critique, then please do so in the Photo Gallery section.

But if you need help with a specific issue, then please post in the Photo Analysis section.

Maybe there is a difference between pictures and photos


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This section is for posting color=red pictures /c... (show quote)


A current example of the all-too-common misuse of UHH sections.

Admin will probably move the photos to Gallery where they belong.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-804639-1.html#14564605

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Apr 13, 2024 13:57:15   #
dml Loc: Texas
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Rick, your topic is well meaning, not a rant at all. However, you're starting with the wrong assumption.

Photo Gallery is primarily a social sharing site. The majority of UHH users are over 70 years old.
Those who wish to "improve" (the meaning will be different for everyone) will ask for help.

Regarding where you can post photos, there are dozens of under-utilized volunteer-managed sections. Anyone unfamiliar should go to "all sections" at the bottom of this page. Subscribe to those of interest, and participate!

I frequent Landscape section and Black and White. And I always encourage feedback I also co-manage Digital Artistry, where we are open to constructive suggestions and opinions.

A note about Photo Analysis. The guidelines, written by Admin, are very specific as to that section's purpose. Folks who want to post there should read that pinned doc first. Otherwise, Admin will just move them to Gallery.
Rick, your topic is well meaning, not a rant at al... (show quote)


amen

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Apr 14, 2024 09:42:23   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
If someone needs help in getting good photos, what is wrong with telling them? I don't mind, in fact I appreciate it.
What is wrong with healthy criticism?

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Apr 14, 2024 10:00:57   #
srt101fan
 
topcat wrote:
If someone needs help in getting good photos, what is wrong with telling them? I don't mind, in fact I appreciate it.
What is wrong with healthy criticism?


It's wrong when it's not welcomed!

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Apr 14, 2024 10:14:48   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
topcat wrote:
If someone needs help in getting good photos, what is wrong with telling them? I don't mind, in fact I appreciate it.
What is wrong with healthy criticism?
What's wrong with being respectful of a person's desire to simply share a special moment of joy with friends in a forum that is explicity designated for that purpose?

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Apr 14, 2024 10:18:09   #
BebuLamar
 
topcat wrote:
If someone needs help in getting good photos, what is wrong with telling them? I don't mind, in fact I appreciate it.
What is wrong with healthy criticism?


When people believe their works are great, they would feel bad being criticized. At first they would think you're wrong and if you proved that their works are not good they just feel bad. No good coming out of that.

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Apr 14, 2024 13:14:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
topcat wrote:
If someone needs help in getting good photos, what is wrong with telling them? I don't mind, in fact I appreciate it.
What is wrong with healthy criticism?

Even if not asked for?
If asked for, that is totally different.

If I post a picture here, in the gallery, it's <hopefully> for the enjoyment of the viewer, that's it.
I'm not interested in how I could have made it better, what I should have done differently, or what may be wrong with it.

When I view a physical gallery, I don't discuss or leave notes for the creator on how something should have been done differently......... I just view them, liking them or not.

I'm not one of those people who always have to provide their two cents about something.

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Apr 14, 2024 13:54:57   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Longshadow wrote:

If I post a picture here, in the gallery, it's <hopefully> for the enjoyment of the viewer, that's it.
I'm not interested in how I could have made it better, what I should have done differently, or what may be wrong with it.

That's you, not everyone feels the same way. I'd bet the overwhelming majority would appreciate someone taking the time to provide constructive comments on their work in the gallery.

Quite often people leave thoughts on how a photo might be improved w/o slamming the photo or presenter and it's very rare the OP gripes about it. More common than complaints are "thanks, I didn't realize my horizon was a bit crooked"

For the most part when comments like this are made, not only the OP benefits, but many others viewing may benefit as well. Probably why most participate in a public photo forum designed primarily for discussion of photo's.

IMO, of the two "evils" blowing smoke is far worse than trying to help.

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Apr 14, 2024 13:59:15   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
BigDaddy wrote:
That's you, not everyone feels the same way. I'd bet the overwhelming majority would appreciate someone taking the time to provide constructive comments on their work in the gallery...
What is your theory about why so few ask for feedback in their opening post?

I looked at your last five Gallery topics and don't see where you encouraged opinions that you hadn't already expressed in your openings, i.e. "I think it looks pretty good."

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Apr 14, 2024 14:14:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BigDaddy wrote:
That's you, not everyone feels the same way. I'd bet the overwhelming majority would appreciate someone taking the time to provide constructive comments on their work in the gallery.

Quite often people leave thoughts on how a photo might be improved w/o slamming the photo or presenter and it's very rare the OP gripes about it. More common than complaints are "thanks, I didn't realize my horizon was a bit crooked"

For the most part when comments like this are made, not only the OP benefits, but many others viewing may benefit as well. Probably why most participate in a public photo forum designed primarily for discussion of photo's.

IMO, of the two "evils" blowing smoke is far worse than trying to help.
That's you, not everyone feels the same way. I'd b... (show quote)

Yup, definitely me. Now I'll think to myself, it would be better if the horizon, virtual or not, were leveled, but I won't state it.
I don't correct people's grammar or spelling either..... But I may say something about no punctuation al all. Mainly because it can't be read intelligently.
Even though they may benefit.

My philosophy: "If they want my opinion, they'll ask for it.".

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Apr 14, 2024 14:18:22   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Here's a thought. If you are viewing an image in the gallery and think that you have a suggestion that will improve the image and enlighten the poster, the P.M. the submitter of the image and share your insightful wisdom privately with them. I think all too often the suggestions about improvement aren't about being helpful, but are more about holding forth to show off what the responder knows in a public forum. Yes UHH is a "public" forum, but the gallery is a "private" corner of that "public" forum.

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