Zooman 1

I was not aware of a Photo Analysis section. Will use it when I am wanting feedback on one of my photos.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

For the benefit of everyone who does not know or forgot, there is an [All Sections] link at the very bottom of each page. It will take you to the sections directory where you can choose to check out anything, provided you're a member and signed in.

Bill_de Loc: US

I just checked that out. If I counted correctly there are over 50 sections to pick from.

We should pick one that is seldom used and repurpose it as the argument section. Our main sections could then be used for real discussions about photography.

For those who simply respond constantly without adding anything worthwhile we could give them one of the unused sections. We could name it, 'I love Myself'.

Or, maybe just a "Me To" section for those who tend to agree to everything, off topic or not.

It's getting late, nothing good on TV so I decided to turn it off and peruse UHH. Even bad TV is often better than UHH.

I made these comments in jest. When I reread them they were ... you decide.



Nite All!

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crabbydog

People only post pictures to solicit constructive critique from the more experienced photographers.

People who are so sensitive and cannot accept criticism should refrain from posting their photos.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Zooman posted a topic to Analysis and Admin moved it to Birds. I provided the link on page 1 of this thread to the guidelines for Photo Analysis.

It's worth reading.

rpm Loc: Houston, TX

Rick, I wasn't aware there were two places to display photos & in photo gallery it's frowned upon to be negative. I've probably been offending people for years and not known it... lol, so, I learned something. I'm placing mine in photo analysis because I'm always looking to learn. Makes sense to me! Thank you sir.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Yea, riiiiiiight.
And some don't.
No one posts simply to show people their shots?
I've never solicited a critique, so I must be no one.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Although I understand what you are saying here, there is still no point in offering gushing praise on a set of images that are, well, not good photos, in a number of ways. Whether the poster is asking for comments or not.

Now this also may be, because those posting such praise, themselves have no clue as to what makes a good photograph and what does not. Therefore, we effectively have the blind leading the blind and there is no fixing that.

srt101fan

Well, what DOES make a good photograph?

UHH member "User ID" seems to be a professional with more photography knowledge than almost anyonr around here. Are his photographs "good"?

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

But why would that need to be the way to look at things. Why not say... how long would it be before these people with poor grammar, would begin to learn and get better at their grammar when posting. I feel that is the better way of looking at it.

Those with poor grammar on here, even if they say they are happy with their poor spelling or incorrect use of words, way down deep, secretly do wish they were better at grammar, but they are afraid to openly admit that.

Many people around the world, and I have lived in a number of countries and speak several languages, look upon people with poor grammar, as people with a poor education. I don't know anyone who willingly wants others around them, to think that they have a poor education.

Therefore, grammar police or whatever you wish to call them, are doing a service to all those who don't know how to spell or who use the wrong words in their sentences. Quite often, the use of the wrong word can give your sentence a completely different meaning.

BebuLamar

Well I don't want to say someone photographs are good or bad because what do I know. But in my opinions (can be very wrong) that I don't like any of User ID photographs. But I don't like them does it mean that they are not good. I don't like any photographs of HCB either.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Poor, good, great are relative to the viewer. Their perception/opinion and probably any association (or not) to the subject.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Having read many, but not all the posted replies here, I feel people are missing what the OP was saying in his original observation. He was stating that it does little good for members to speak up and praise poor photography by others. There is nothing wrong with someone posting poor photography, we all started somewhere, and none of us were instant experts at photography.

We all went through that stage of taking crap photos with all sorts of things wrong with our images, from lighting to poor composition to bad colour, and any number of other things. I consider myself fortunate that other had my best interest in mind and spoke up, pointing out where I was failing. If it were not for those people along the way, I would not have seen the improvement over the years, in my photography. Therefore, I thank these people, looking back on things.

On the other hand, if there are people who are praising poor photography technique, whether it be composition, lighting, focus etc. and knowingly do that for poor photography, these are people who do not have the best interest in mind, of those who are inadvertently posting such images. If they are unknowingly posting praise on poor photography, then of course, these people clearly have no clue as to what goes into the making of a good photograph.

Therefore, we need to take that into consideration, for these responders, are as helpless as those posting the photos and may well be doing it in blissful ignorance. I might add though, that as a foreigner living here, I have noticed that America has more people than any other country that I've lived in, who seem to shower others with false praise for all sorts of things, from bad hair and makeup to poor dress sense and, as mentioned, poor photography, among other things.

It's nauseating to hear such things as.. "Oh I just love your outfit" or "I love what you did with your hair" etc. when anyone with an ounce of common sense, can see that was not the truth at all. So, it is possibly a cultural thing going on here. No disrespect meant to anyone here or there, living or dead.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Sadly, the American society has evolved into "don't make anyone feel bad" society. Everyone gets a <participation> trophy and attaboys.
I've viewed images here where people have praise them, and I wonder what for....

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

That is not what he said, you don't seem to have understood what was being said. Go back and read the OP again. He is saying there is little point in praising poor photographs, it does nothing to help the posting photographer.

There is nothing wrong with posting such images and that is not the issue here, whether the photographer wants comments or not. What is wrong, is when people say great set or excellent work, when it is obvious to most of us, that this is not the case.

It's at this point, that it is best to say nothing. That would be more fair and kinder to the posting photographer, than telling them they are a good set when they clearly are not.