What is YOUR Litmus Test for Choosing the Next President? (Page 9): Really, look how EVs are polling in Michigan. How’s Ford’s sales?

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

Wait! I see that as failure on our part. Right now America is third in EV use ) that counting EU as a single entity but way way down the list in EV manufacture- that’s JOBs . The largest exported of EV to EU is china. So on one hand we moan complain about China and the other hand give them bigger and bigger market share. Something wrong thier.

To me this is jobs jobs jobs . …but some put politics ahead of that .

Really, look how EVs are polling in Michigan. How’s Ford’s sales?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Blurryeyed wrote:

Denny, we have allowed China to corner the market on the materials needed to make those batteries. Where they are located in the US the regulatory environment makes them almost impossible to recover....

Who gives a crap that China is beating us in EV manufacture, they are beating us in just about everything else as well.

So isn’t it about time we invested in any infrastructure that brings us closer to competing with them ?
We export nearly half of the EV we produce . What ? do you want Just to hand the world market to the Chinese ?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

Really, look how EVs are polling in Michigan. How’s Ford’s sales?

Isn’t that what I said previously- the public will decide when and how much. The federal government has mandated nothing repeat nothing but it is putting in place opportunity.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Blurryeyed wrote:

LOL.... Biden sucks and the country knows it no matter how much you try to deflect.... How's that infrastructure bill doing anyway, 2 years ago $5 billion for EV charging stations, so far they have installed a grand total of 6. God forbid that we allow Biden and crew to go any further in the transformation of our electrical grids and transportation systems.

Haw are those rebuilt bridges doing?

You really need to find a different source for your news!

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Blurryeyed wrote:

Yeah, well how are those projects progressing, spe... (show quote)

There have been at least 2 major route collapsed bridges which were rebuild with funding from the Infrastructure Bill!

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

btbg wrote:

Well, the easiest part of the answer is that we do... (show quote)

How many roads and bridges do you travel over or under on a regular basis, which are visibly in desperate need of repair or replacement?

Where do you think the money is going to come from for those repairs or replacements?

btbg

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

How many roads and bridges do you travel over or under on a regular basis, which are visibly in desperate need of repair or replacement?

Where do you think the money is going to come from for those repairs or replacements?

Bridges were about 260 billion of the entire bill. We could discuss whether that is a good use of tax funds or not but the debate is over a 1.3 trillion bill not over a fraction of it.

For what its worth Most bridges should be maintained by the states. The Astoria Megler bridge over the Columbia is the bridge closest to the Key bridge in Baltimore and it is maintained by the states of Oregon and Washington not the feds.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

I’m waiting for you to delineate the green projects making up the “ huge” portion of the infrastructure act

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

How many roads and bridges do you travel over or under on a regular basis, which are visibly in desperate need of repair or replacement?

Where do you think the money is going to come from for those repairs or replacements?

So two bridges and 6 EV chargers.... Things are progressing just swimmingly.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

DennyT wrote:

I’m waiting for you to delineate the green projects making up the “ huge” portion of the infrastructure act

Actually according to the BBC $110 billion for roads and bridges and $73 billion for green energy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58152467

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

Isn’t that what I said previously- the public will decide when and how much. The federal government has mandated nothing repeat nothing but it is putting in place opportunity.

The feds always have their hand on the scale picking winners and losers via regulations and taxpayer price supports. The Chinese EV market although still growing worldwide is not as healthy as in the past and price wars fighting for market shares and severe price drops makes many Chinese feel duped. https://restofworld.org/2024/china-ev-industry-slowdown/#

Ask people who bought Tesla Model 3 dual motors (like my son) how much the cars have depreciated. Many of the lesser brands in China that have gone out of business have left their auto owners wondering who is going to support their need for constant software updates.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

btbg wrote:

Bridges were about 260 billion of the entire bill. We could discuss whether that is a good use of tax funds or not but the debate is over a 1.3 trillion bill not over a fraction of it.

For what its worth Most bridges should be maintained by the states. The Astoria Megler bridge over the Columbia is the bridge closest to the Key bridge in Baltimore and it is maintained by the states of Oregon and Washington not the feds.

The same is true of iconic bridges like the Golden Gate and the Oakland bay bridge. The feds did pass an act to fund some maintenance and repair https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47194#:~:text=The%20federal%20government%20has%20established,the%20construction%20of%20new%20bridges. but most bridges are state and local owned and maintained.

mikee

DennyT wrote:

Isn’t that what they said about Biden 4 years ago ?

The GOP said that about Biden, but now that Trump is the same age as Biden was in 2020 they've gone mute about it. I think it has something to do with "hypocracy" being in their bylaws.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

mikee wrote:

The GOP said that about Biden, but now that Trump is the same age as Biden was in 2020 they've gone mute about it. I think it has something to do with "hypocracy" being in their bylaws.

I think they are both too old but mere age is not the major concern with Biden. It is his clear cognitive decline. Trump obviously gives pause for many other reasons for those on the left and some never Trumpers on the right but the cognitive atrophy is the reason that Biden’s handlers will never allow him on a debate stage having to operate off script.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

btbg wrote:

Bridges were about 260 billion of the entire bill. We could discuss whether that is a good use of tax funds or not but the debate is over a 1.3 trillion bill not over a fraction of it.

For what its worth Most bridges should be maintained by the states. The Astoria Megler bridge over the Columbia is the bridge closest to the Key bridge in Baltimore and it is maintained by the states of Oregon and Washington not the feds.

Which government entity is responsible for maintaining bridges is generally determined by the status of the road the bridge is a part of, specifically is it a Local Road, a State Road, or part of the Federal Highway System.