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Apr 6, 2024 09:53:17   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Which Political issues are most important to YOU!

Perhaps I should be asking this of only the Independents?
The Never-Trumpers, Never Bidens... you are already locked in.
Does anyone here claim to be Independent?

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Apr 6, 2024 10:59:14   #
pdsdville Loc: Midlothian, Tx
 
I'm in a real quandary. I can't, in all good conscience v**e for either man. My choices are either not to v**e or write in an unknown, which is much the same. Where are all the good politicians?

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Apr 6, 2024 11:07:20   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
pdsdville wrote:
I'm in a real quandary. I can't, in all good conscience v**e for either man. My choices are either not to v**e or write in an unknown, which is much the same. Where are all the good politicians?


The P**********l candidates maybe too old to survive their term of office. Look to their VP se******n to decide.

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Apr 6, 2024 11:09:06   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
The P**********l candidates maybe too old to survive their term of office. Look to their VP se******n to decide.


Isn’t that what they said about Biden 4 years ago ?

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Apr 6, 2024 11:32:11   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
I think it was said about tRump... 8 years ago too. lol

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Apr 6, 2024 14:18:45   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
I think it was said about tRump... 8 years ago too. lol


While I don’t agree with pence on a few things he has demonstrated an allegiance to the Constitution and America before party. Can you say that ?

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Apr 6, 2024 18:38:55   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
DennyT wrote:
While I don’t agree with pence on a few things he has demonstrated an allegiance to the Constitution and America before party. Can you say that ?


Pence has the distinction of doing the right thing at an historical do-or-die moment. But ... until very recently he's been a staunch supporter of the 'pardon Trump imperative'. Maybe he still is? Most likely he still is.



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Apr 6, 2024 21:00:23   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
Isn’t that what they said about Biden 4 years ago ?


You really haven’t seen a considerable decompensation in the past four years? I don’t care who you are for you have to have seen this. You have to have heard him say on many, many occasions, “I can’t answer that, I’ll get in trouble.” I’ll give you all the stupid s**t Trump says but come on. Oh, maybe you haven’t seen his many missteps depending on your television news source, if so I apologize.

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Apr 6, 2024 23:37:52   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
As things stand now RFK jr has my v**e, mainly because his last name isn't either Trump or Biden

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Apr 7, 2024 00:38:19   #
rcarol
 
pdsdville wrote:
I'm in a real quandary. I can't, in all good conscience v**e for either man. My choices are either not to v**e or write in an unknown, which is much the same. Where are all the good politicians?


My wallet will v**e for me.

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Apr 7, 2024 06:47:35   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
DennyT wrote:
Isn’t that what they said about Biden 4 years ago ?

Yet President Biden is running circles around trump, he actually got the Infrastructure Bill passed, didn't he?

All we heard from trump for four years was claims that an infrastructure bill was coming, but it never materialized.

Here are the bills passed and signed into law under President Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/biden-laws-passed-priorities-to-get-done-executive-orders/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-signs-package-of-spending-bills-passed-by-congress-hours-before-shutdown-deadline

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

Three years into the Biden Administration, how many government shutdowns have there been? Zero!

Under trump, there were two, January, 2018 for 3 days, and December, 2018 to January, 2019 for 35 days!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

All we're seeing out of trump is whining, he hasn't put out a platform to run on. For the most part we're hearing grievances about losing the 2020 e******n. If it's not grievances, it's trump's intentions to do away with the US Constitution and the rule of law.

The real choice in 2024 is between continuing with the democratic republic as we've known it for the past 247 years under the first 46 Presidents, or turning the United States into an Autocracy or a Dictatorship under trump if he manages to squeak out a win.

Do you really want to live under the kind of oppressive rule similar to Russia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Syria, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Haiti, Iraq, El Salvador, Honduras, or Pakistan?

https://www.worlddata.info/dictatorships.php

Think long and hard about the freedoms you currently have under the US Constitution and our current rule of law, vs. what trump is desperately projecting he wants to do to the United States, all in an effort to avoid accountability for his illegal actions in the past.

No matter how you look at it, trump is desperately trying to find a way to stay out of prison. It's the main reason he announced his candidacy so early.

What trump fails to understand is that he can't pardon himself for State crimes. The New York Business Fraud case starts jury se******n in just over 8 days. trump has run out of excuses to try to delay or stop that case.

Unfortunately if the cash strapped trump gets back into office, EVERY decision he makes will be in his own best interests, not in the best interests of the country.

Since the reduced bond was obtained, it's come to light that the company / individual writing the bond doesn't have the financial backup to meet the full reduced amount of the required bond amount. The bond is now being challenged because it doesn't meet the requirements under New York law.

There's also the ties to the adult entertainment industry which the junk loan billionaire Don Hankey has. Does anyone really want a President beholding to a high interest loan shark, or tied to the adult entertainment industry, which will compromise the United States standing on the world stage?

Oh that's right, trump’s already been caught in compromising situations with adult entertainment industry women, and paid hush money to keep those relationships out of the news!

In the past just one of the compromising situations trump has found himself in would have ended a politician's career. WHY does the trump cult keep giving trump a pass on so many of his compromising situations?

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Apr 7, 2024 06:56:05   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Effate wrote:
You really haven’t seen a considerable decompensation in the past four years? I don’t care who you are for you have to have seen this. You have to have heard him say on many, many occasions, “I can’t answer that, I’ll get in trouble.” I’ll give you all the stupid s**t Trump says but come on. Oh, maybe you haven’t seen his many missteps depending on your television news source, if so I apologize.

I'll take the occasional Biden "missteps" any day over trump's blatant disregard for the US Constitution and the rule of law!

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Apr 7, 2024 07:06:36   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
tramsey wrote:
As things stand now RFK jr has my v**e, mainly because his last name isn't either Trump or Biden

Although JFK's death inspired me at the age of 7 to become a Democrat, RFK's conspiracy theories should truly give v**ers pause at choosing to v**e for him.

Throwing away your v**e on a conspiracy theorist who hasn't got a snowballs chance in you know where of winning should really be reevaluated

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Apr 7, 2024 07:17:16   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
rcarol wrote:
My wallet will v**e for me.

So that means that the question of under which president your doing better is going to be the answer.

Let's see, the stock market is at a record high under President Biden!

The price of Prescription drugs are down for Seniors under President Biden!

Jobs are being brought back to the United States under President Biden!

The Infrastructure Bill is helping to repair roads and bridges under President Biden!

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Apr 7, 2024 08:58:36   #
Caribou Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Yet President Biden is running circles around trump, he actually got the Infrastructure Bill passed, didn't he?

All we heard from trump for four years was claims that an infrastructure bill was coming, but it never materialized.

Here are the bills passed and signed into law under President Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/biden-laws-passed-priorities-to-get-done-executive-orders/index.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-signs-package-of-spending-bills-passed-by-congress-hours-before-shutdown-deadline

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

Three years into the Biden Administration, how many government shutdowns have there been? Zero!

Under trump, there were two, January, 2018 for 3 days, and December, 2018 to January, 2019 for 35 days!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

All we're seeing out of trump is whining, he hasn't put out a platform to run on. For the most part we're hearing grievances about losing the 2020 e******n. If it's not grievances, it's trump's intentions to do away with the US Constitution and the rule of law.

The real choice in 2024 is between continuing with the democratic republic as we've known it for the past 247 years under the first 46 Presidents, or turning the United States into an Autocracy or a Dictatorship under trump if he manages to squeak out a win.

Do you really want to live under the kind of oppressive rule similar to Russia, China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Syria, Saudia Arabia, UAE, Haiti, Iraq, El Salvador, Honduras, or Pakistan?

https://www.worlddata.info/dictatorships.php

Think long and hard about the freedoms you currently have under the US Constitution and our current rule of law, vs. what trump is desperately projecting he wants to do to the United States, all in an effort to avoid accountability for his illegal actions in the past.

No matter how you look at it, trump is desperately trying to find a way to stay out of prison. It's the main reason he announced his candidacy so early.

What trump fails to understand is that he can't pardon himself for State crimes. The New York Business Fraud case starts jury se******n in just over 8 days. trump has run out of excuses to try to delay or stop that case.

Unfortunately if the cash strapped trump gets back into office, EVERY decision he makes will be in his own best interests, not in the best interests of the country.

Since the reduced bond was obtained, it's come to light that the company / individual writing the bond doesn't have the financial backup to meet the full reduced amount of the required bond amount. The bond is now being challenged because it doesn't meet the requirements under New York law.

There's also the ties to the adult entertainment industry which the junk loan billionaire Don Hankey has. Does anyone really want a President beholding to a high interest loan shark, or tied to the adult entertainment industry, which will compromise the United States standing on the world stage?

Oh that's right, trump’s already been caught in compromising situations with adult entertainment industry women, and paid hush money to keep those relationships out of the news!

In the past just one of the compromising situations trump has found himself in would have ended a politician's career. WHY does the trump cult keep giving trump a pass on so many of his compromising situations?
Yet President Biden is running circles around trum... (show quote)


"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any v**ers, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible." January, 2016

It certainly is "like, incredible".

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