What is YOUR Litmus Test for Choosing the Next President? (Page 8): Are you serious ?? 7.5 billion is what percentage of 1.3 trillion and you call it” huge”.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

btbg wrote:

Well, the easiest part of the answer is that we do... (show quote)

Are you serious ??
7.5 billion is what percentage of 1.3 trillion and you call it” huge”.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Blurryeyed wrote:

You know damn well that I was talking about the elimination of fossil fuels and nuclear plants in favor of replacing those with wind and solar.

Really ??? Who is talking about that except you and your ilk.
No one is the answer !!!

You’re the one called “ threatening the “ America way of life”.. good thing you weren’t around in the early stages of the automobile or airplanes .

btbg

DennyT wrote:

Are you serious ??
7.5 billion is what percentage of 1.3 trillion and you call it” huge”.

Look again there os a lot more that is green projects then just the 7.5 billion, but even if you dont accept that 7.5 billoon is a huge amoint of money to spend on crap. I see you completely ignored the national debt issue as weel as attemptimg to force us into evs. For a so called conservative you are one of the most liberal, progressive individuals I have ever tried to communicate with.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

btbg wrote:

Look again there os a lot more that is green projects then just the 7.5 billion, but even if you dont accept that 7.5 billoon is a huge amoint of money to spend on crap. I see you completely ignored the national debt issue as weel as attemptimg to force us into evs. For a so called conservative you are one of the most liberal, progressive individuals I have ever tried to communicate with.

Show us what you call green and thier total dollar value ????
You’re the one called it “ huge “ … prove it

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

DennyT wrote:

Really ??? Who is talking about that except you and your ilk.
No one is the answer !!!

You’re the one called “ threatening the “ America way of life”.. good thing you weren’t around in the early stages of the automobile or airplanes .

Hell Denny, open your eyes blind man, half the country is talking about that.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

Will you two explain how the minuscule portion of the $1.3 Trillion threatens the “ American lifestyle” or out “ security”

I was speaking to only to infrastructure relative to energy and not getting this false acceleration to a green economy before it is economically feasible or before the infrastructure is in place to facilitate the change. For instance placing arbitrary dates to convert to EVs such as in California (and I think about a dozen other blue states are following) where no new gas/diesel powered cars can be sold after 2035. This when we already have the most expensive electricity in the country and experience rolling blackouts.

Seems to me from a security standpoint, as we saw during the pandemic, we are already dependent on China for certain drugs and their precursors, they own at least 235,000 acres of farmland and are buy food processing operations such as Smithfield’s (the largest pork producer in the world) and they control much of the finite minerals in the world so let’s see a dependency for drugs, energy and food (all they need now is control of our water which they probably have with ability to hack). Seems to me they won’t even need to fire a shot!

rcarol

DennyT wrote:

Really ??? Who is talking about that except you and your ilk.
No one is the answer !!!

You’re the one called “ threatening the “ America way of life”.. good thing you weren’t around in the early stages of the automobile or airplanes .

When are electric powered aircraft scheduled to replace the current lot of jet powered aircraft?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Blurryeyed wrote:

Hell Denny, open your eyes blind man, half the country is talking about that.

And why is “ half the county” ( in your opinion talking about “it”.

What is it you’re the one mouthed off about “ threatening the American way of life”

I politely asked you to explain how “

Well ?

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

rcarol wrote:

When are electric powered aircraft scheduled to replace the current lot of jet powered aircraft?

When did anyone make that claim ? I do t see the connection to the infrastructure act .

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

I was speaking to only to infrastructure relative ... (show quote)

Then I would think you would support investment in American infrastructure to combat all the items you mention. None of them have anything to do with federal government. Infrastructure. Act do they ?

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I do not see a sense of false acceleration. In the end it is the America public that make their own decision. All the government is doing setting goals -NO MANDATES and opportunity . Given the path the rest of the world is taking it would be stupid to stick our heads in the sand and let all those job and corporate involvement go to overseas companies. But it seems that is what some want to do - stick their heads in ground - all in the name of politics .

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

rcarol wrote:

When are electric-powered aircraft scheduled to replace the current lot of jet-powered aircraft?

They will be in operation as soon as they can control the

weather to ensure when and where lightning will strike

to charge up the plane.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

Then I would think you would support investment in... (show quote)

I would think the federal government could slow roll the green new deal portion until it is ready for prime time and realize who our greatest geopolitical enemy is and do through the regulatory or legislative process what can be done to insulate us from this growing dependency.

btbg

DennyT wrote:

Then I would think you would support investment in... (show quote)

That is absurd. The American public should be making those choices but that is not what is happening. As previously stated California followed by other states in the near future are saying no more internal cbustion automibles after 2035. Thst is not the public choosing. More insidious are the subsidies for buying evs or placing solar panels on your roof, etc... Taxpayers who do not choose to do those things are being forced to pay for other people who are purchasing those things.

When government supports one industry over another, pays for research in one area but not another, uses tax payer money to subsidize purchases of products that no one could afford to buy without the suvsidies, gives one business a tax break while adding additional taxes to another industry, it is no longer the free market that is making those chooces.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

I would think the federal government could slow roll the green new deal portion until it is ready for prime time and realize who our greatest geopolitical enemy is and do through the regulatory or legislative process what can be done to insulate us from this growing dependency.

Wait! I see that as failure on our part. Right now America is third in EV use ) that counting EU as a single entity but way way down the list in EV manufacture- that’s JOBs . The largest exported of EV to EU is china. So on one hand we moan complain about China and the other hand give them bigger and bigger market share. Something wrong thier.

To me this is jobs jobs jobs . …but some put politics ahead of that .

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

DennyT wrote:

Wait! I see that as failure on our part. Right now America is third in EV use ) that counting EU as a single entity but way way down the list in EV manufacture- that’s JOBs . The largest exported of EV to EU is china. So on one hand we moan complain about China and the other hand give them bigger and bigger market share. Something wrong thier.

To me this is jobs jobs jobs . …but some put politics ahead of that .

Denny, we have allowed China to corner the market on the materials needed to make those batteries. Where they are located in the US the regulatory environment makes them almost impossible to recover....

Who gives a crap that China is beating us in EV manufacture, they are beating us in just about everything else as well.