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Apr 8, 2024 09:39:47   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Scruples wrote:
Yes this in the wrong place. Wait….What….I’m not an Admin!


The real message here is responsibility and commitment.

As a pilot (I’m not licensed) you need certain boundaries. First you must follow a set of rules established for you. There can be no wiggle room here. Train with someone who is equally committed to positive results. Foolishness has no place and neither does irresponsibility. It is totally sad. The parents indulged their child. They should have seen this coming but their eyes were closed or they were blind. Several years ago, I chose to become a pharmacist. My parents were glad I chose a career but school was demanding and snatched my personal time. When licensed I became firmly entrenched with responsibilities and needed to remain committed to my career.
I have been licensed for over 35 years never forgetting my initial commitments to patients.
As a pilot my first lesson was a birthday gift from my wife. We both got a chance to pilot a Piper Cherokee. It is fun but the learning takes time. When I am instrument rated for a Cherokee I will move on to an Apatche. I don’t want to be a licensed commercial pilot but I have plans to develop an aviation curriculum at my former high school.
Yes this in the wrong place. Wait….What….I’m not a... (show quote)

Good for you - sounds like a great plan - I would have loved a curriculum like that in high school. I got my license in ’76 in a Cessna 150 - type rated in the 172, 305, Piper Warrior, Archer, Beechcraft Bonanza, Navy T28 Trojan and finally the Twin Comanche PA-30. I love flying and will always remember this poster given to me when I got my license



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Apr 8, 2024 09:41:02   #
Shootist1 Loc: New Smyrna Beach, Fl
 
While I was learning to fly a doctor was in ground school with me. I soloed, and he didn’t. The doctor asked why I was allowed to solo, and he wast. The instructor informed him that he wasn’t ready.
He switched schools, and got his license. A few months later he flew into some bad weather. The next morning they found the aircraft upside down. The doctor, his wife, and two children were dead.
The doctor never understood his level of ability.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:19:16   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Being an adult usually means having the ability to show restraint.


Calendar age and maturity age usually are very good companions..............if they are at the same distance above zero.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:25:38   #
radiojohn
 
Gosh, I Wish I was as perfect as you.
I also wish there was an ignore button.
Too bad, as your ratio of good info to bully talk is quite high.
Do the letters "STFU" come your way often?

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Apr 8, 2024 10:29:46   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
radiojohn wrote:
Gosh, I Wish I was as perfect as you.
I also wish there was an ignore button.
Too bad, as your ratio of good info to bully talk is quite high.
Do the letters "STFU" come your way often?


Don't sweat it.
Just ignore me.
I never have good info, anyway.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:36:58   #
Tommg
 
I agree definitely "chit chat", if even?

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Apr 8, 2024 11:18:37   #
radiojohn
 
I tried to erase and not post that, but failed. I must be grouchy because I won't see the eclipse.

Here I was, criticizing for somebody criticizing.

Makes sense, huh?

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Apr 8, 2024 18:40:26   #
W9OD Loc: Wisconsin
 
Fun chatter, too bad the kid was acting like a kid, AND his dad was just as irresponsible.

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Apr 8, 2024 18:51:39   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
W9OD wrote:
Fun chatter, too bad the kid was acting like a kid, AND his dad was just as irresponsible.


Can't help but think if the situation turned out that others were killed, and the unqualified flier somehow had lived, that it may well have become a case similar to the Ethan Couch "affluenza", "have pity on the poor kid" fiasco.

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Apr 9, 2024 05:23:04   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I have heard of helicopter parents, but not airplane parents. Unfortunately the parents were his enabler. But they would probably just tell people they wanted to make their son happy.

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Apr 9, 2024 07:31:05   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Shellback wrote:
Good for you - sounds like a great plan - I would have loved a curriculum like that in high school. I got my license in ’76 in a Cessna 150 - type rated in the 172, 305, Piper Warrior, Archer, Beechcraft Bonanza, Navy T28 Trojan and finally the Twin Comanche PA-30. I love flying and will always remember this poster given to me when I got my license


This is absolutely true. I remember that image of the plane in the tree. The words are absolutely correct.
I do got my license in 1976 in a Cessna 150.
Bruce.

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Apr 9, 2024 08:17:41   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Longshadow wrote:
I didn't notice until I was made aware.
Still don't care.


It really isn’t a big deal. But Jerry’s message is clear. There comes a time and place for shenanigans but they have no place on the flight deck.

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Apr 9, 2024 08:19:32   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I watch several reports of plane accidents. Yesterday I watched an analysis of a crash that killed two young men. The young pilot was more interested in the prestige factor of being a pilot, taking lots of selfies while being instructed. His instructor managed to get him to settle down, somewhat. Eventually, the instructor quit when the boy showed up with alcohol on his breath. The flying school dropped him.

What to do? Simple. The father bought his son a plane and found another instructor. Although he had gotten some kind of certificate, he had restrictions because of his lack of experience - no passengers, for example. Well, around 3:30 on morning, he and a friend drove to the airport and took off on a dark, cloudy night - not far from a military Air Force base. He never used the radio despite being called several times by the Air Force base. Flying in dark, cloudy skies, he eventually spiraled into the ground, killing himself and his 19-year-old friend.

Everything was wrong with this story. The kid was irresponsible, and the father supported him by finding different instructors as one after another quit and then buying him a plane. Imagine the parents waking up in the morning and learning that their son had crashed and killed himself.

This analysis was on "Pilot Debrief" on YouTube. Hoover gives a good analysis of crashes, often pointing out shortcomings in the investigation. He's a former F-15 pilot.
I watch several reports of plane accidents. Yeste... (show quote)


By far the greatest cause of aircraft accidents is pilot error!



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Apr 9, 2024 08:21:51   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Shellback wrote:
Good for you - sounds like a great plan - I would have loved a curriculum like that in high school…..


I can’t take credit for the curriculum. It was created by the Airplane Owners and Pilots Association. I would like to propose it to the New York City Board of Education and local high schools.

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Apr 9, 2024 08:27:41   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
NJFrank wrote:
I have heard of helicopter parents, but not airplane parents. Unfortunately the parents were his enabler. But they would probably just tell people they wanted to make their son happy.


Making your child happy and enabling dangerous behaviour are two entirely different creatures. It is important to keep one’s eyes and ears open and one’s mouth closed and appear stupid and foolish than to close one’s eyes and ears then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!

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