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Apr 8, 2024 07:27:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I watch several reports of plane accidents. Yesterday I watched an analysis of a crash that killed two young men. The young pilot was more interested in the prestige factor of being a pilot, taking lots of selfies while being instructed. His instructor managed to get him to settle down, somewhat. Eventually, the instructor quit when the boy showed up with alcohol on his breath. The flying school dropped him.

What to do? Simple. The father bought his son a plane and found another instructor. Although he had gotten some kind of certificate, he had restrictions because of his lack of experience - no passengers, for example. Well, around 3:30 on morning, he and a friend drove to the airport and took off on a dark, cloudy night - not far from a military Air Force base. He never used the radio despite being called several times by the Air Force base. Flying in dark, cloudy skies, he eventually spiraled into the ground, killing himself and his 19-year-old friend.

Everything was wrong with this story. The kid was irresponsible, and the father supported him by finding different instructors as one after another quit and then buying him a plane. Imagine the parents waking up in the morning and learning that their son had crashed and killed himself.

This analysis was on "Pilot Debrief" on YouTube. Hoover gives a good analysis of crashes, often pointing out shortcomings in the investigation. He's a former F-15 pilot.

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Apr 8, 2024 07:49:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Surely this is Chit Chat?

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Apr 8, 2024 07:54:06   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Surely this is Chit Chat?


Yes it is. Typical of Jerry's post and I like it. I think he made a mistake posting here today. It's his first post of the day I think.

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Apr 8, 2024 08:22:28   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Surely this is Chit Chat?


Yes this in the wrong place. Wait….What….I’m not an Admin!


The real message here is responsibility and commitment.

As a pilot (I’m not licensed) you need certain boundaries. First you must follow a set of rules established for you. There can be no wiggle room here. Train with someone who is equally committed to positive results. Foolishness has no place and neither does irresponsibility. It is totally sad. The parents indulged their child. They should have seen this coming but their eyes were closed or they were blind. Several years ago, I chose to become a pharmacist. My parents were glad I chose a career but school was demanding and snatched my personal time. When licensed I became firmly entrenched with responsibilities and needed to remain committed to my career.
I have been licensed for over 35 years never forgetting my initial commitments to patients.
As a pilot my first lesson was a birthday gift from my wife. We both got a chance to pilot a Piper Cherokee. It is fun but the learning takes time. When I am instrument rated for a Cherokee I will move on to an Apatche. I don’t want to be a licensed commercial pilot but I have plans to develop an aviation curriculum at my former high school.

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Apr 8, 2024 08:26:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Seems an adult is needed here too ....

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Apr 8, 2024 08:38:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Scruples wrote:
Yes this in the wrong place. Wait….What….I’m not an Admin!
...

I didn't notice until I was made aware.
Still don't care.

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Apr 8, 2024 08:39:46   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I watch several reports of plane accidents. Yesterday I watched an analysis of a crash that killed two young men. The young pilot was more interested in the prestige factor of being a pilot, taking lots of selfies while being instructed. His instructor managed to get him to settle down, somewhat. Eventually, the instructor quit when the boy showed up with alcohol on his breath. The flying school dropped him.

What to do? Simple. The father bought his son a plane and found another instructor. Although he had gotten some kind of certificate, he had restrictions because of his lack of experience - no passengers, for example. Well, around 3:30 on morning, he and a friend drove to the airport and took off on a dark, cloudy night - not far from a military Air Force base. He never used the radio despite being called several times by the Air Force base. Flying in dark, cloudy skies, he eventually spiraled into the ground, killing himself and his 19-year-old friend.

Everything was wrong with this story. The kid was irresponsible, and the father supported him by finding different instructors as one after another quit and then buying him a plane. Imagine the parents waking up in the morning and learning that their son had crashed and killed himself.

This analysis was on "Pilot Debrief" on YouTube. Hoover gives a good analysis of crashes, often pointing out shortcomings in the investigation. He's a former F-15 pilot.
I watch several reports of plane accidents. Yeste... (show quote)


What ISO did they use?

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Apr 8, 2024 08:56:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Surely this is Chit Chat?


Whoops! I had posted something in Main, so when I posted again, it was still on Main. I should have added something - wait a minute, I did! I said the kid was too interested in taking selfies. His interest in photography led to his death.

The placement of a pilot's camera crashed a commercial airliner.

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Apr 8, 2024 08:59:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
To be adult is to be capable of operating a drop-down box.

To be adult is to be capable of recognizing an error and edited the nonsense within the UHH 60-ish minute edit window.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:01:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
To be adult is to be capable of operating a drop-down box.

To be adult is to be capable of recognizing an error and edited the nonsense within the UHH 60-ish minute edit window.


Since photography was one of the points, it's okay where it is. Having a one-hour time limit on edits isn't practical.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:05:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
To be adult is to be capable of operating a drop-down box.

To be adult is to be capable of recognizing an error and edited the nonsense within the UHH 60-ish minute edit window.

Moreover to be cognizant of where one is posting, not necessarily an adult...

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Apr 8, 2024 09:09:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Moreover to be cognizant of where one is posting, not necessarily an adult...


Being an adult usually means having the ability to show restraint.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:12:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
It's not a character flaw to behave as a responsible adult.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:12:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Being an adult usually means having the ability to show restraint.

Glad you said usually.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:27:56   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Longshadow wrote:
I didn't notice until I was made aware.
Still don't care.


👍😂

Stan

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