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Apr 1, 2024 16:42:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
It's obvious you haven't read the full thread and are cherry picking in a knee-jerk (emphasis on jerk) when the entire OP is about use for covid in humans. Carry on with you cherriness. Even the OP knows the context of their post is specific to covid and educated experienced readers know it's understood throughout the thread. Except clueless people luke you.


Im not addressing what the OP said, I was responding to your BS. You said that Ivermectin was not approved for human use when it actually is. That’s the argument you illiterate.

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Apr 3, 2024 15:24:23   #
Triple G
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Im not addressing what the OP said, I was responding to your BS. You said that Ivermectin was not approved for human use when it actually is. That’s the argument you illiterate.


Just shows how clueless you are that the entire thread was about covid. If you take each person's individual posts out of context (which you did here) it's understandable why you are so mistaken, misinformed. and made fun of so much for your lack of comprehension.

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Apr 3, 2024 15:44:24   #
btbg
 
Triple G wrote:
Just shows how clueless you are that the entire thread was about covid. If you take each person's individual posts out of context (which you did here) it's understandable why you are so mistaken, misinformed. and made fun of so much for your lack of comprehension.


In his initial statement Triple G did not state that Ivermictin was not approved for covid use, he clearly stated that it was not approved for human use. He only clarified when I pointed that out to him.

As to it not being approved for covid, no drugs were approved for covid when the pandemic started, so that is a strawman answer. The FDA chose what drugs people were allowed to be treated with without looking at the efficacy of the drugs or the potential side effects. Both Hydroxichloraquine and Ivermictin had promising results, but the FDA shut them down before anyone could do valid studies.

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Apr 3, 2024 16:04:37   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
In his initial statement Triple G did not state that Ivermictin was not approved for covid use, he clearly stated that it was not approved for human use. He only clarified when I pointed that out to him.

As to it not being approved for covid, no drugs were approved for covid when the pandemic started, so that is a strawman answer. The FDA chose what drugs people were allowed to be treated with without looking at the efficacy of the drugs or the potential side effects. Both Hydroxichloraquine and Ivermictin had promising results, but the FDA shut them down before anyone could do valid studies.
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Whine some more, I'll get you a snack to go with it.

You take way too much claim on "pounding" anyone. The answer stood for itself.

The same comment about reading things within the context of the discussion applies likewise to you as it does to whack-a-rac.

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Apr 3, 2024 16:15:10   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Triple G wrote:
Just shows how clueless you are that the entire thread was about covid. If you take each person's individual posts out of context (which you did here) it's understandable why you are so mistaken, misinformed. and made fun of so much for your lack of comprehension.


Wrong, I did not take your words out of context you pathological liar. I quoted what you said word for word about Ivermectin not approved for human use. You can lie twist and BS all you want you said it and you lied. Everybody on here knows you have a habit of twisting lying and BS seeing everybody. You have no integrity.

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Apr 3, 2024 16:31:30   #
btbg
 
Triple G wrote:
Whine some more, I'll get you a snack to go with it.

You take way too much claim on "pounding" anyone. The answer stood for itself.

The same comment about reading things within the context of the discussion applies likewise to you as it does to whack-a-rac.


You better go back and reread what you claimed. No mention of covid in the post and there were no drugs approved for covid at the time so it was in exactly the same position as any other perscription drug. By the way saying someone is wrong is not whinong.

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Apr 3, 2024 16:33:52   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
btbg wrote:
You better go back and rrrrad whtbyou claed. No mention of covid in the post and tjere were no drugs approved for covid a the the so it was in exactly the same position as any other perscription drug. By the way saying someone is wrong is not whinong.


These hypothetical lying Lefties always take Trumps words in context don’t they? It’s amazing they accuse others of taking their words out of context which we didn’t yet they always take Trump’s words out of context

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Apr 3, 2024 16:42:55   #
btbg
 
Racmanaz wrote:
These hypothetical lying Lefties always take Trumps words in context don’t they? It’s amazing they accuse others of taking their words out of context which we didn’t yet they always take Trump’s words out of context


You mean such as sayong bloodbath recently. You should read about the press secretarys recent interaction witj Peter Doocy aboit Biden using tje word related to Bernie Sanders in 2020.

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Apr 3, 2024 16:47:01   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
btbg wrote:
You mean such as sayong bloodbath recently. You should read about the press secretarys recent interaction witj Peter Doocy aboit Biden using tje word related to Bernie Sanders in 2020.


Peter Doocy usually demolishes her

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Apr 3, 2024 16:58:43   #
btbg
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Peter Doocy usually demolishes her


Yes but this is better than usual. He got her to say that they would condemn anyone using violent rhetoric tjen quoted Biden using the same word. Trapped her really well and left her essentially speechless.

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Apr 3, 2024 17:23:30   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
You better go back and reread what you claimed. No mention of covid in the post and there were no drugs approved for covid at the time so it was in exactly the same position as any other perscription drug. By the way saying someone is wrong is not whinong.



Yes, you are whining about ivermectin as if it had any validity this late in the game.

You are showing that you didn't understand the context of the entire thread. It was bogus from the very beginning and had nothing to do with "naysayers", but did have everything to do with ivermectin and covid in humans. That's the context you missed and keep trying to take my comment out of that context. No cigar for you no matter how much you an rac want to buddy pat each other's backs.

I'm still anticipating seeing you and rac join the ranks with blurred in the far-right anti-administrative state brigade to get rid of FDA, EPA, Dep. of Education, etc.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:36:32   #
rwoodvira
 
[quote=Racmanaz]

I'll respond to you then to the overall issue. Ivermectin is approved for use in humans as an anti-parasitic(effective against parasites), not as an antiviral(effective against viruses), nor an antibiotic(against bacteria, nor an anti-fungal(against mold & fungus). Doctors do prescribe drugs off-label if found to be effective in the treatment of other diseases.

There were numerous clinical trials on the effectiveness of invermectin against COVID; the latest from memory at Duke with 1200 participants that found that the drug had no effectiveness against COVID - It was written in JAMA:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2801827.

The doctor in question was being censored and lost hospital privileges for her use of the drug that was deemed inappropriate. The FDA suit was probably her fighting back.

Politicians pretend to know about everything; unfortunately this was a new disease that was studied quickly and not all attempts worked. Trump's "one day it will all go away." was as stupid as Biden's "vaccination will prevent you from spreading it." We are still learning about disease like TB that have been around for centuries; we will be studying COVID I believe for a long time. Some diseases go away and stay away, others like the flu keep mutating and visit us frequently.Unfortunately, I think COVID will be the latter.

I hope that helps.

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Apr 3, 2024 17:54:56   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
dakotacheryl Joined: Jan 8, 2014 Posts: 142 Loc: Near Mt Rushmore

The OP knows she's beat in November on 'women's choice and health' and that J6 is a loser for MAGA. So she revisits Trump's greatest failure? "With supporters like these who needs Libtards?!?" Laura Trump (the singer)

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Apr 3, 2024 17:57:05   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
[quote=rwoodvira]
Racmanaz wrote:


I'll respond to you then to the overall issue. Ivermectin is approved for use in humans as an anti-parasitic(effective against parasites), not as an antiviral(effective against viruses), nor an antibiotic(against bacteria, nor an anti-fungal(against mold & fungus). Doctors do prescribe drugs off-label if found to be effective in the treatment of other diseases.

There were numerous clinical trials on the effectiveness of invermectin against COVID; the latest from memory at Duke with 1200 participants that found that the drug had no effectiveness against COVID - It was written in JAMA:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2801827.

The doctor in question was being censored and lost hospital privileges for her use of the drug that was deemed inappropriate. The FDA suit was probably her fighting back.

Politicians pretend to know about everything; unfortunately this was a new disease that was studied quickly and not all attempts worked. Trump's "one day it will all go away." was as stupid as Biden's "vaccination will prevent you from spreading it." We are still learning about disease like TB that have been around for centuries; we will be studying COVID I believe for a long time. Some diseases go away and stay away, others like the flu keep mutating and visit us frequently.Unfortunately, I think COVID will be the latter.

I hope that helps.
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Thanks rwood, I agree with that, but that was not my argument. I was confronting triple saying that Ivermectin was not approved for human use. Ivermectin Is approved for human use as well as animals, but not for Covid.

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Apr 4, 2024 06:41:31   #
dakotacheryl Loc: Near Mt Rushmore
 
Texcaster wrote:
dakotacheryl Joined: Jan 8, 2014 Posts: 142 Loc: Near Mt Rushmore

The OP knows she's beat in November on 'women's choice and health' and that J6 is a loser for MAGA. So she revisits Trump's greatest failure? "With supporters like these who needs Libtards?!?" Laura Trump (the singer)


Why the attack on me? I was simply reporting the change at FDA. You do know that physicians prescribe all sorts of medicines for off label use every day.

Please don't presume to say what I "know" as you simply don't have a clue. We'll both have to wait and see what the November election results will be. One of us will be happy and the other of us not so much.

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