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Mar 31, 2024 17:41:33   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Several of the top people at Boeing have been "let go," and it's rumored that a woman will replace Calhoun as the CEO. Mr. Calhoun will be out of a job by the end of the year. I hope he can find a new job before he has to go on welfare. At least they gave him nine months to get himself ready for a lower standard of living. Maybe he'll start a GoFundMe to help him buy food and pay the rent until he finds a new job.

When you look at the number of changes in management Boeing has gone through in recent years, you have to wonder why they bother. All they are doing is making millionaires richer.

One of Boeing's largest customers is RyanAir. The head of the company said that when they receive a 737, they have to spend a couple of days examining it and removing tools and replacing missing parts.

"Calhoun's annual salary is about $1.4 million and his target annual bonus is about $17 million. 5 days ago."

Based on an eight-hour day, he's making about $9,000 an hour.

Another source says he made over $24 in 2023, for $12,000 an hour, not bad for a kid from Philadelphia.
Several of the top people at Boeing have been &quo... (show quote)


Another example, sad as it is... of America slipping away into oblivion.

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Mar 31, 2024 18:32:40   #
mtcoothaman Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
 
There used to be a saying among some aircraft technical people "If it aint Boeing I aint going ". Not so sure now.

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Apr 1, 2024 07:46:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
mtcoothaman wrote:
There used to be a saying among some aircraft technical people "If it aint Boeing I aint going ". Not so sure now.


Boeing made a lot of money for a lot of people by cutting costs. "It seemed like a good idea at the time."

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Apr 1, 2024 08:19:32   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Several of the top people at Boeing have been "let go," and it's rumored that a woman will replace Calhoun as the CEO. Mr. Calhoun will be out of a job by the end of the year. I hope he can find a new job before he has to go on welfare. At least they gave him nine months to get himself ready for a lower standard of living. Maybe he'll start a GoFundMe to help him buy food and pay the rent until he finds a new job.

When you look at the number of changes in management Boeing has gone through in recent years, you have to wonder why they bother. All they are doing is making millionaires richer.

One of Boeing's largest customers is RyanAir. The head of the company said that when they receive a 737, they have to spend a couple of days examining it and removing tools and replacing missing parts.

"Calhoun's annual salary is about $1.4 million and his target annual bonus is about $17 million. 5 days ago."

Based on an eight-hour day, he's making about $9,000 an hour.

Another source says he made over $24 in 2023, for $12,000 an hour, not bad for a kid from Philadelphia.
Several of the top people at Boeing have been &quo... (show quote)


These overly paid executives are one of the main reasons for our hugely underpaid low pay scale tier of workers in this country. And some of them even get away without paying their full share of income taxes. In California where I live we needed a statewide voting initiative to get these low paid workers a minimum wage increase of $4.00 per hour from $16. to $20. per hour. Even with this wage increase they are far from being able to buy real estate of any kind.
Forty, fifty years ago we were living what became known as "The American Dream". Today we are living "The Corporate Dream".

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Apr 1, 2024 08:22:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Morry wrote:
These overly paid executives are one of the main reasons for our hugely underpaid low pay scale tier of workers in this country. And some of them even get away without paying their full share of income taxes. In California where I live we needed a statewide voting initiative to get these low paid workers a minimum wage increase of $4.00 per hour from $16. to $20. per hour. Even with this wage increase they are far from being able to buy real estate of any kind.
Forty, fifty years ago we were living what became known as "The American Dream". Today we are living "The Corporate Dream".
These overly paid executives are one of the main r... (show quote)


Well, you have to remember who makes the laws. The difference between what the boss makes and what the workers make has expanded tremendously over the years. I get a kick out of companies saying they can't afford to increase wages or offer better benefits.

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Apr 1, 2024 08:43:48   #
Caribou Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Boeing's reputation has clearly been damaged and justifiably so. What I don't get is why you never hear criticism of the Board of Directors. They hire these people and approve ridiculous compensation packages only to have them run the companies into the ground. I worked for a very large company and I was always struck by the emphasis on the "top line" (because the stock market likes to see that--thus the value of their stock options gets juiced) often at the expense of prudent business practices. I came to the conclusion that the people at the top win either way. They do imprudent things that grow the top line and maybe get away with it and they get the big compensation. Or, they gamble and do things that ultimately cause big problems but they still walk away with big dollars and someone else has to clean it up and this often rolls downhill and adversely affects the employees. The boards are often just rubber stamps because they are frequently symbolic and don't really know what's going on.

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Apr 1, 2024 08:50:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Caribou wrote:
Boeing's reputation has clearly been damaged and justifiably so. What I don't get is why you never hear criticism of the Board of Directors. They hire these people and approve ridiculous compensation packages only to have them run the companies into the ground. I worked for a very large company and I was always struck by the emphasis on the "top line" (because the stock market likes to see that--thus the value of their stock options gets juiced) often at the expense of prudent business practices. I came to the conclusion that the people at the top win either way. They do imprudent things that grow the top line and maybe get away with it and they get the big compensation. Or, they gamble and do things that ultimately cause big problems but they still walk away with big dollars and someone else has to clean it up and this often rolls downhill and adversely affects the employees. The boards are often just rubber stamps because they are frequently symbolic and don't really know what's going on.
Boeing's reputation has clearly been damaged and j... (show quote)


You are correct, unfortunately. Trying to keep stockholders happy is a big part of the problem. Would there have been a Great Depression without the stock market?

One problem with Boards of Directors is the fact that many directors sit on several boards. It's an, "I'll scratch your back, and you scratch mine" situation. The government has been looking into this situation, but I doubt it's going to change.

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Apr 1, 2024 10:43:29   #
Doyle Thomas Loc: Vancouver Washington ~ USA
 
As a result of the recent failures and scandels at BA i have sold off my stock holdings.

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Apr 1, 2024 14:30:32   #
sjb3
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
Reminds me of the cars I see in Cuba. Same old bodies with updates to keep them running.


I remember seeing a documentary many years ago on that same subject. Folks there had some truly remarkable cottage industries fabricating various parts to keep those classic cars running; they had no other choice.

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Apr 1, 2024 14:46:51   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
Morry wrote:
These overly paid executives are one of the main reasons for our hugely underpaid low pay scale tier of workers in this country. And some of them even get away without paying their full share of income taxes. In California where I live we needed a statewide voting initiative to get these low paid workers a minimum wage increase of $4.00 per hour from $16. to $20. per hour. Even with this wage increase they are far from being able to buy real estate of any kind.
Forty, fifty years ago we were living what became known as "The American Dream". Today we are living "The Corporate Dream".
These overly paid executives are one of the main r... (show quote)


I agree that a lot of people are vastly overpaid in our society! Among them are professional athletes, television and movie stars, musical and dramatic entertainers, celebrities, social influencers, stockbrokers, and others who collect huge salaries for producing nothing in the way of food, shelter, or useful items for improving the lives of society. A great example is Taylor Swift, who has collected over a billion dollars on her current tour, for nothing more useful than entertaining people with a couple of hours of diversion from life.

By comparison corporation executives and boards produce meaningful and valuable products that people need for daily life. They are vastly underpaid in comparison to the idiotic celebrities that people worship.

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Apr 1, 2024 16:14:07   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Several of the top people at Boeing have been "let go," and it's rumored that a woman will replace Calhoun as the CEO. Mr. Calhoun will be out of a job by the end of the year. I hope he can find a new job before he has to go on welfare. At least they gave him nine months to get himself ready for a lower standard of living. Maybe he'll start a GoFundMe to help him buy food and pay the rent until he finds a new job.

When you look at the number of changes in management Boeing has gone through in recent years, you have to wonder why they bother. All they are doing is making millionaires richer.

One of Boeing's largest customers is RyanAir. The head of the company said that when they receive a 737, they have to spend a couple of days examining it and removing tools and replacing missing parts.

"Calhoun's annual salary is about $1.4 million and his target annual bonus is about $17 million. 5 days ago."

Based on an eight-hour day, he's making about $9,000 an hour.

Another source says he made over $24 in 2023, for $12,000 an hour, not bad for a kid from Philadelphia.
Several of the top people at Boeing have been &quo... (show quote)


In an automobile it is call planned obsolescence. But that does not seem to apply to aircraft.

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Apr 1, 2024 23:54:50   #
KolorFotoBug Loc: Massachusetts
 
Too bad for Boeing that the focused on the bottom line over doing the right thing and safety. Corporate culture often reflects senior leadership. A friend of mine says "When a fish stinks, it stinks from the head down".

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Apr 2, 2024 16:20:19   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
sjb3 wrote:
I remember seeing a documentary many years ago on that same subject. Folks there had some truly remarkable cottage industries fabricating various parts to keep those classic cars running; they had no other choice.


I was in Cuba last month. There are other (non-US) cars on the street: Kia, Hyundai, Skoda, etc. But, still a surprising number of classic US cars. Most, but not all, are for taxis and tourists.

We went for a joy ride in an classic convertible. We had no problem; but another car, that our friends were in, broke down. No problema: a few other drivers stopped to help, and it was running again in no time.

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