Lawyer tests vs. Doctor tests = False Equivalency. Nonsensical to compare.
Linda From Maine wrote:
Lawyer tests vs. Doctor tests = False Equivalency. Nonsensical to compare.
Are you suggesting the DEI is not influencing Medical schools?
Blurryeyed wrote:
Are you suggesting the DEI is not influencing Medical schools?
Geeze, the topic here is lawyers! For your further consideration (from same link):
"The Court’s orders implement these changes:
Adopt the National Conference of Bar Examiners’ NextGen bar exam, which addresses many of the identified flaws in the current bar exam by focusing on real-world skills and practice. The NextGen bar exam will be implemented in Washington in summer 2026.
Create three experiential-learning alternatives to the bar exam, one for law-school graduates, one for law-school students, and one for APR 6 law clerks (who are enrolled in a non-law school course of study).
For graduates, this would entail a six-month apprenticeship under the guidance and supervision of a qualified attorney; during that time, the graduates would be required to complete three courses of standardized coursework.
For law students, the experiential pathway would allow them to graduate practice-ready by completing 12 qualifying skills credits and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern; they would be required to submit a portfolio of this work to waive the bar exam.
For law clerks (enrolled in a non-law school course of study), creation of additional standardized educational materials and benchmarks to be completed under the guidance of their tutors that dovetail with the requirements of the law school graduate apprenticeship, and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern to be eligible to waive the bar exam.
Call for the investigation and adoption of assessments and programs to help ensure lawyers remain competent throughout their careers, not just upon the moment of licensure."
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
How did lawyers become lawyers in colonial times .?
DennyT wrote:
How did lawyers become lawyers in colonial times .?
Back then they were better known as shysters.
DennyT wrote:
How did lawyers become lawyers in colonial times .?
What does The colonial have to do with today?
Kraken wrote:
Back then they were better known as shysters.
You’re still shysters today, much like you democrats are.
Racmanaz wrote:
I was gong to mention doctors but doctors have a direct effect on a persons health. Not in the same class as Attorneys.
It could be if your are an attorney defending somebody accused of murder.
rcarol wrote:
It could be if your are an attorney defending somebody accused of murder.
I guess you can always do a background check on your attorney if you can.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Racmanaz wrote:
What does The colonial have to do with today?
What a dumb statement. Remember a thing called the constitution .
DennyT wrote:
What a dumb statement. Remember a thing called the constitution .
You are right, what you said was a dumb statement. What the hell does this have to do with the constitution?
Linda From Maine wrote:
"After more than three years of extensive study—bringing together data and research with testimony from scholars and experts—the Task Force came to two important findings: The traditional bar exam disproportionately and unnecessarily blocks marginalized groups from entering the practice of law, and the traditional bar exam is at best minimally effective for ensuring competent lawyers. "From
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Is it the big words, or are the concepts are too difficult? Maybe the signature at the top. ... Imagine if testing for airline pilots was done away with... and instead awarded based on the melanin content. How about brain surgery...
But OK, as long as I am able to hire someone based on their published proficiency or lack there of... but next will be that asking to review credentials as also racist.... I mean after all, having to acquire an ID is deemed racist.
It's weird - and more than a little scary - to read the reactionary comments here.
Doctors and pilots can face life-threatening emergencies. Whether they've passed a written test or not, I'd suggest that their level of experience is what would give me the best chance of survival.
There are already incompetent lawyers (who passed a written test), but also Appeals Courts, and other avenues of recourse, and there is time to remedy.
On a side note, I'm curious if there's ever been a rich defendent sent to prison because of an incompetent lawyer?
Linda From Maine wrote:
It's weird - and more than a little scary - to read the reactionary comments here.
Doctors and pilots can face life-threatening emergencies. Whether they've passed a written test or not, I'd suggest that their level of experience is what would give me the best chance of survival.
There are already incompetent lawyers (who passed a written test), but also Appeals Courts, and other avenues of recourse, and there is time to remedy.
On a side note, I'm curious if there's ever been a rich defendent sent to prison because of an incompetent lawyer?
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Yup, even with the Bar exam, there are still so many incompetent and terrible Attorneys. But the question is will this new rule or law in these states make it worse or make it better? I don’t know.
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