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Mar 19, 2024 14:47:53   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Like I said, nothing earthshaking there for me.



I COULD NOT AGREE MORE !!!

The type of camera you use, will "NEVER DEFINE YOU AS A PHOTOGRAPHER"! Only Time...Experience... and

Knowledge of the Art, and will do that.

I care not...where this "Mirror Less vs. Mirror Camera" goes. I learn each day. And I hope that this will always be.

I just think that some people "LOVE TO TYPE"...don't you???

That is all I will say about this subject.

Longshadow...I could not agree with you more, and you are 100% right!!!

Thanks,
Boone.

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Mar 19, 2024 14:48:21   #
blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania
 
That's a good analogy. I agree with you. Will never switch to a Mirror less camera. I can get fantastic shots with all my DSLR'S. It's called talent and experience. And knowing the equipment you use inside and out. New Mirror less camera. Just make it easier for less experienced photographers. I don't like the light cheesey feel of mirror less body's. I love the solid feel And Tank like quality of my D850.

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Mar 19, 2024 14:59:20   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
Have you guys forgotten (are you too young) about film SLRs before auto focus, before auto exposure, thru the viewfinder split image rangefinder, setting hyperfocal distance on the lens and no LCD screen. My first advancement was a built in match needle light meter. I shot a wedding with a Nikon Photomic Ftn. I also remember getting disoriented by turning in the opposite direction while looking down at the matte screen viewfinder of a Rolliecord 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 with the magnifier focus aid flipped up. (which I still have it in a box behind me). Photography is oh so much easier now. I greatly appreciate modern advancements including mirrorless.

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Mar 19, 2024 15:11:59   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)


After reading all the comments one word comes to mind, "DEPENDS". As for me switched to mirrorless and at same time changed systems. Don't regret switching to mirrorless but do regret changing systems. Live and learn.

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Mar 19, 2024 15:23:33   #
MtManMD Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
 
bkwaters wrote:
I can't believe people replied! Amazing!


Amazing indeed. As the old saying goes, "You can't fix stupid", but many of us older guys sure like to try.

I haven't seen a single woman reply to this post. That probably tells us something!

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Mar 19, 2024 15:35:50   #
BebuLamar
 
RKastner wrote:
DSLR - Digital Single Lens Reflex

I take it to mean any digital non-pocket camera pre-mirrorless.


Nope! It has to have a reflex viewfinder type. Something like the Leica M9, M10 are not. Something like he Sony A99 and A77 are not.

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Mar 19, 2024 15:41:15   #
peregrine Loc: Rome, NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sensors.

It's also the newest, biggest, strongest processors.
It's also IBIS.
It's also focus assist.
It's also focus peeking.
It's also smaller(ish) size with the removal of space needed for a flapping mirror.
It's also the EVF.
It's also newer and sharper mirrorless lens designs.
It's also adapting legacy SLR lenses from any brand.
It's also no mechanical shutter and bursts in the 30+ per second range.
It's also advanced eye-tracking AF.
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sen... (show quote)

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Mar 19, 2024 15:43:52   #
peregrine Loc: Rome, NY
 
Nonsense and more nonsense. You can't out shoot me with your mirror less wonders. Who need or wants them. Cheaper for the manufacturers to make and suckers to buy.

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Mar 19, 2024 15:53:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
MtManMD wrote:
Amazing indeed. As the old saying goes, "You can't fix stupid", but many of us older guys sure like to try.

I haven't seen a single woman reply to this post. That probably tells us something!


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Mar 19, 2024 16:00:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Boone wrote:
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I just think that some people "LOVE TO TYPE"...don't you???
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Thanks,
Boone.

That and make sure we all know how much knowledge they have.

Many times a simple yes or no answer receives a page or two dissertation.

But, people will be people.

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Mar 19, 2024 16:33:38   #
robertkjr3d Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
 
A DSLR is simply older technology. Not sure we need to argue about it. One of the best of which and I think (not sure if it's actually still in production the Canon 1DX...?) But for good reason the production companies have stopped making DSLRs because they can do so much more without 'Mirrors'. Also my current 'Mirrorless' camera had an add-on 'Viewfinder', but I found myself quickly adapting to not ever using it. I was used to using the 'Viewfinder' from my DSLR days, but with the higher tech of the rear-display and even when manual focusing at 5x or 10x... I just find no need to use it.
Of course I'm sure it's already been mentioned that 'Mirrorless' numbers are just better in every way and can get better. The proposed Canon R5 Mark II coming out soon, I just drool over.

This isn't like moving from Records to CDs, and now LPs are experiencing a resurgence. Or a better example of those who love using their 'Film' cameras? What I'm saying is I don't think DSLR compares to that experience. Isn't the experience closer to the guy who simply upgrades his tablet or PC computer?

Holding onto the idea that your old-DSLR tech is good enough, and it may be for you. But take it for what it is. Old-tech. Some of us are very happy that the world has moved on.

I have a lot of pictures from my old DSLR camera. A Rebel SL1. But they don't compare to the resolution or quality I get from my Mirrorless. And I hope to upgrade again. I want that R5. Probably won't end up with Mark II though.

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Mar 19, 2024 16:37:54   #
sxrich
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine your life as a successful photographer. Does your camera still have a mirror?


Yes, it does. I find your statement humorous......I shoot weddings, portraits, events using a dslr. So, if you're not shooting with a mirrorless, you images are not good enough?

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Mar 19, 2024 16:42:14   #
sxrich
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)


You forgot to mention color banding with lcd lighting using silent shutter.

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Mar 19, 2024 16:42:57   #
blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania
 
I totally agree with you. Don't need new technology to become a better photographer. Will never switch to a Mirror less camera. I can get fantastic shots with all my DSLR'S, And no EVF can match a live view through the lens. It's called talent and experience, I have honed my skills over the past 30+ years. And knowing the equipment you use inside and out. New Mirror less cameras just make it easier for less experienced photographers. I don't like the light cheesey feel of mirror less body's. I love the solid feel And Tank like quality and battery life of my D850s.

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Mar 19, 2024 16:46:57   #
User ID
 
wmurnahan wrote:
Started with a rangefinder camera, had SLR's, twin lenses, and now a mirrorless. The only thing I prefer the SLR for is manual focus with the old school fresnel/split cirlce, with the mirrorless, I'm able to see what the finished photo will look like with the settings I'm using, for most shots (not long exposures).
If an EVF camera is recent enough you can even watch a long exposure build up right before eyes. SLRs truly are toast.

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