Is there really still confusion about amount of daylight when clocks are changed forward/backward?
Mar 10, 2024 17:12:46 #
Longshadow wrote:
Trust me, I know all this, Bill Look at the angle on the left of the dark and on the right side of dark. One is a positive slope, the other is negative.
During the equinoxes, they both are basically vertical.
During the equinoxes, they both are basically vertical.
One fact I didn't know 'til about 10 years ago is that the amount of daylight we gain or lose each day (in a single place, not comparing to other locations) is not equal. No wonder it "suddenly" seems so much lighter afer about mid-February!
Mar 10, 2024 17:32:46 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
They probably don't have to manually set any of those devices when the time changes either
They probably don't.
But then, I recall one year, a fellow at the job, probably in his mid-thirties, was hot and bothered for about two weeks after the spring forward clock change.
He was so incensed the government had taken away an hour of daylight on the day, so that we had to start the workday in near darkness.
No one could convince him there was just as much time of daylight added to the evening clock time as had been "taken away" from the morning clock time. He was trying to start a petition to recall a long list of government officials because they had "taken an hour of daylight away from us".
Mar 10, 2024 17:38:08 #
dustie wrote:
That's a little bit scary. But then so are flat-earthers and people who don't know the difference between weight and volume, and people who can't calculate percentages They probably don't. br br But then, I recall one... (show quote)
Mar 10, 2024 17:43:01 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Trust me, I know all this, Bill
One fact I didn't know 'til about 10 years ago is that the amount of daylight we gain or lose each day (in a single place, not comparing to other locations) is not equal. No wonder it "suddenly" seems so much lighter afer about mid-February!
One fact I didn't know 'til about 10 years ago is that the amount of daylight we gain or lose each day (in a single place, not comparing to other locations) is not equal. No wonder it "suddenly" seems so much lighter afer about mid-February!
I noticed that also.
Is the rate of declination change constant? Or faster/slower at different points?
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Mar 10, 2024 18:19:28 #
Busbum wrote:
Move to Arizona, MST all the TIME!!!
Sure, and now I have all these clocks that change automatically for DST and I have to change them to PST...
Mar 10, 2024 18:30:51 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
That's a little bit scary. But then so are flat-earthers and people who don't know the difference between weight and volume, and people who can't calculate percentages
Not being able to get the basic understanding of non-tangible concepts which involve arithmetic, math, science, etc, must really throw some people for a loop.
Mar 10, 2024 18:33:05 #
terryMc wrote:
Sure, and now I have all these clocks that change automatically for DST and I have to change them to PST...
Mar 10, 2024 18:44:13 #
Longshadow wrote:
I noticed that also.
Is the rate of declination change constant? Or faster/slower at different points?
Is the rate of declination change constant? Or faster/slower at different points?
I believe advanced scientists and advanced mathemeticians have calculus formulae to explain/describe that because it does not occur in a linear manner (if I worded all that correctly).
Something about describing relationships / interactions / differences of flat planes and curved surfaces. A teacher in high school tried to explain some of that in a class, but he was not giving an explanation that was really all that clear.
I don't know if it was that he did not have a good understanding of it, or if it was just too far beyond the reach of us ninth graders.
Mar 10, 2024 18:51:04 #
dustie wrote:
I believe advanced scientists and advanced matheme... (show quote)
Non-linear would be correct.
Mar 10, 2024 19:11:38 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I think they will copy this instead of shrinkflation. They may change the size of the pint so that Jerry can still buy the same number of pints of ice cream for the same money but he actually gets less. Yeah changing time is silly and make daylight savings time permanent is extremely stupid.
Germany started daylight savings time in 1916 to save electricity in factories for WW1. (Factories in those days had lots of huge windows to light the interior during the daylight hours.) The rest of Europe followed, and the US adapted DST in March 1918.
Today it doesn't really matter as for the most part electric power is abundant.
Where it does matter is people sleeping with windows that let in daylight. Some people find it hard to sleep after sunup unless they have heavy blackout style curtains. So in order not to "waste" that free outdoor light, you either get up earlier or change the clocks. This mainly applies to people who work outdoors, like farmers and ranchers. My Grandfather used to get up 1 1/2 hours before sunrise to milk the cows in the barn by lantern light, eat breakfast and be working in the fields just at sunrise.
Mar 10, 2024 19:13:37 #
dustie wrote:
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Minus the sensible science, there must be a compelling reason news outlets do this sort of article producing twice a year, but I fail to understand what good it is supposed to accomplish.
Minus the sensible science, there must be a compelling reason news outlets do this sort of article producing twice a year, but I fail to understand what good it is supposed to accomplish.
Fills space in the newspapers and takes up air time if news is slow.
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