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Feb 23, 2024 09:50:00   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Rongnongno wrote:
What makes you take a picture? What do you want to show? THAT is what influences your decision, nothing else.

If you do not know what the camera settings do when capturing a scene, you better start experimenting instead of asking on a forum where no one can help you.

There are no rule per se other than correct exposure and compositing according to your point of view.



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Feb 23, 2024 09:50:52   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
Timmers wrote:
With any focal plane shutter any ANY camera, except a Leica; the choice is the faster shutter speed, period.

Most image degradation is due to that first curtain slamming into the stop and creating vibration. And every camera maker is vary aware of this problem, yet they do nothing to correct the problem, except the makers of Leica cameras.

Back in 1932, E. Leitz, maker of the famed Leica camera, saw the problem and introduced a fall out bearing design (this is the soft sound of rolling bearings that the Leica camera makes as the shutter is released) so that the first curtain does not stop abruptly, but is allowed to slow and elevates the potential energy of the shutter. This eliminates most of the shutter vibrations effect of image clarity.

This is where the fame of a Leica being able to produce sharper images at any speeds but especially at lower speeds. It really is not that mirror slamming up just prior to an exposure, though that too helps to degrade sharpness in an image.
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Excellent point. There is a mirror up function on many cameras that pops the mirror up before the shutter is released. That helps a bit.

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Feb 23, 2024 10:27:18   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Your "desired" final result determines your camera settings. Otherwise you’re just taking a snapshot and not making a photo. If you’re just doing snapshots then use AUTO.

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Feb 23, 2024 10:50:33   #
srt101fan
 
Robertl594 wrote:
I fail to comprehend what motivates some responses to legitimate questions by people who are trying to learn from people who are supposed to have knowledge here. What is this forum for?

There is no reason for nasty replies. If you cannot be constructive and pleasant, just don’t answer. I look at this forum as one of my daily to-dos as I enjoy the exposure to new topics, knowledge resource and participating in all things photographic. What I don’t like is the attitude of certain people who think they are above others and have the right to be condescending and nasty.

Let’s play nicely. If you can’t, just be quiet. Think about what you are saying and how you are saying it. You may know a lot, but it certainly does not give you the right to be unfriendly and rude.

Apologies to the OP for the tone and tenor of your reply.
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I agree with you. The OP asked a reasonable question. He got some good answers. And also unhelpful and snarky ones. But that's UHH.

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Feb 23, 2024 11:04:32   #
Hip Coyote
 
Tangentially related I am finding for many scenes I am using much slower SS. When traveling I now try to get people (not always) in the scene, even of historic places, but want the people blurred so they are noticeable, but not recognizable. The monument or what ever is crystal clear. Of course I also take the usual tourist pics trying to avoid people. I also do this near water features. I’m finding it kinda fun.

So SS is often on my mind. And having a hand held camera that allows for very long SS is key. The smaller sensor Oly I deploy is perfect for this. In fact, due to lacking good IBIS of my little Sony RX 100v6 I missed shots I would have liked in a recent international trip. Tradeoff was size of gear of course.

As chg commented the 1960s notions are outdated. IBIS and now coupled with lens stabilization has changed all that. I will also note that denoise post processing also figures into all of this. When doing mental math on SS-f stop- ISO images that were unusable before can now be salvaged into a good pic.

In summary, SS, IMO, has to do with motion. What is it you want to achieve?

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Feb 23, 2024 11:40:54   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Shutter speed is only one consideration and we have 2 other parts to the equation. You have brightness vs darkness, you have movement or non movement and then you have depth of field. We must play a balance. Start, is it
moving? That says is it a fast shot or can it be longer. How bright is it? That says we must balance the speed with the f stop or the ISO. And we must consider the ISO to balance our picture. We also need to know the depth-of-field to the picture want, not too much extra or too short to cover the subject you want.
It's a game and have fun!

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Feb 23, 2024 12:08:21   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
I attended a local photography conference this past weekend. One of the key note speakers was Scott Kelby. He said when he’s traveling and goes out the door to take travel images he always sets his camera to auto ISO and aperture to the lowest number on his lens. In this way he’ll also get bokeh on closer shots. Also if his camera has an ability for a minimum auto shutter setting (which many cameras do) he sets it to 1/125. In this way the shutter never goes slower, and if needed he would get alerted and then manually adjust.

Obviously doesn’t work for every situation but most according to Scott.

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Feb 23, 2024 12:15:50   #
srt101fan
 
Some of you didn't read the question well. The OP said "...subject/scene isn't changing quickly..."

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Feb 23, 2024 12:16:24   #
srt101fan
 
Fredrick wrote:
I attended a local photography conference this past weekend. One of the key note speakers was Scott Kelby. He said when he’s traveling and goes out the door to take travel images he always sets his camera to auto ISO and aperture to the lowest number on his lens. In this way he’ll also get bokeh on closer shots. Also if his camera has an ability for a minimum auto shutter setting (which many cameras do) he sets it to 1/125. In this way the shutter never goes slower, and if needed he would get alerted and then manually adjust.

Obviously doesn’t work for every situation but most according to Scott.
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Interesting!

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Feb 23, 2024 12:23:38   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
srt101fan wrote:
I agree with you. The OP asked a reasonable question. He got some good answers. And also unhelpful and snarky ones. But that's UHH.


Thank you for seeing what I thought I saw.

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Feb 23, 2024 13:07:55   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
srt101fan wrote:
... The OP asked a reasonable question. He got some good answers. And also unhelpful and snarky ones. But that's UHH.
The OP has posted eight topics in his five weeks of membership. All seem designed to encourage conversation and learning. I consider him more a facilitator/moderator than someone looking for specific "help." We need a lot more of these kinds of topics!

Calling out rudeness is a waste of time and disruptive to a thread. Just think of the trolls, bullies and Great Truth Tellers as "white noise." Or "naked and afraid." That's what works for me

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Feb 23, 2024 13:18:43   #
RKastner Loc: Davenport, FL
 
Longshadow wrote:
It didn't sound like he was asking what HE should do, sounded like he was asking what WE do.....


Isn't the purpose of asking what WE do is that he's wondering what HE should do?

It's implied.

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Feb 23, 2024 13:24:07   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
The OP has posted eight topics in his five weeks of membership. All seem designed to encourage conversation and learning. I consider him more a facilitator/moderator than someone looking for specific "help." We need a lot more of these kinds of topics!

Calling out rudeness is a waste of time and disruptive to a thread. Just think of the trolls, bullies and Great Truth Tellers as "white noise." Or "naked and afraid." That's what works for me
The OP has posted eight topics in his five weeks o... (show quote)


Perhaps such quieries should be prefaced with "Your opinion please", or "Your thoughts".

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Feb 23, 2024 13:42:26   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
gvarner wrote:
Perhaps such quieries should be prefaced with "Your opinion please", or "Your thoughts".
Did you intend to quote the person whose comments followed mine? If you are quoting me (on purpose, lol), I'm not sure of your meaning. The opening posts of his topics clearly invite opinions. So, whether he's here to facilitate conversation, or is asking a wide range of thoughtful questions for his own curiosity/learning, all is working out.

btw, I'm not sure if I read that he is a he, or I just assumed, given the overall lack of female participation in main photography discussion

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Feb 23, 2024 14:22:52   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Did you intend to quote the person whose comments followed mine? If you are quoting me (on purpose, lol), I'm not sure of your meaning. The opening posts of his topics clearly invite opinions. So, whether he's here to facilitate conversation, or is asking a wide range of thoughtful questions for his own curiosity/learning, all is working out.

btw, I'm not sure if I read that he is a he, or I just assumed, given the overall lack of female participation in main photography discussion
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