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Feb 17, 2024 18:20:51   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
clint f. wrote:
Given your weather report are you in AU or NZ. The moniker could indicate a fisherman in Texas or a guitar player with a Fender guitar.


Sort of all the above. I'm in S.E. Queensland. Perth at the moe is 44c ... that's a lot.


... and a Fender Champ clone.





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Feb 17, 2024 18:25:37   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
Texcaster wrote:
It's pretty good here as well. February has been humid but VERY livable temps, low 30s by day and low 20s by night. (85f and 65f)

Since you're in Polynesia ... this is down the road from the other pic. I'm pretty sure they sell to everyone.


Wow, sex shop, cheap cars for bad credit, what appears to be a check chashing store and guns. That has all the makings of a neighborhood one might avoid if over here. Where’s the smoke shop?

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Feb 17, 2024 18:31:30   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Effate wrote:
Wow, sex shop, cheap cars for bad credit, what appears to be a check chashing store and guns. That has all the makings of a neighborhood one might avoid if over here. Where’s the smoke shop?


Smoke shops are everywhere but only tobacco and vapes. Marijuana is illegal here.

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Feb 17, 2024 22:58:44   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Two Fish, did I change the course of this thread? I was wondering how to make ammo spoil/rot/not-ignite. I'm not sure how it became about taking away guns... especially from the '97%'.


Art, I told you, the only way I knew how, and that was to suck all of the oxygen out of the earth, since ammo requires oxygen to ignite. It was somewhat of a facetious reply, because, by now, unless you have access to Klatu, there is no other way.

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Feb 17, 2024 23:34:04   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
clint f. wrote:
We can’t agree because we think and feel differently. Forcing your will on others because of your uneasiness with an inanimate object is incomparable with my perception reason and rational discourse. I don’t know you but would probably not associate with younot based upon this one issue, but because it is indicative of a life view that is dramatically different than my own. That isn’t meant to denigrate you, I respect your right to have a different opinion, not so keen on your compulsion to force it on others. As I sit overlooking the Hawaiian Pacific Ocean from the lanai I sincerely hope your day is as terrific as mine.
We can’t agree because we think and feel different... (show quote)


Thank you for the assessment.

The idea of FORCING a personal belief on another person due to an irrational fear (hoplophobia)(*) or uneasiness with inanimate objects is definitely not conducive to a rational discussion.

It is noted this sort of forcing due-to-belief has been going on for much of human history.

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Feb 17, 2024 23:56:02   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
SteveR wrote:
Art, I told you, the only way I knew how, and that was to suck all of the oxygen out of the earth, since ammo requires oxygen to ignite. It was somewhat of a facetious reply, because, by now, unless you have access to Klatu, there is no other way.


Oxygen IS NOT REQUIRED for ammunition to ignite and expel a projectile!

That is why guns may be fired underwater or in space.


See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokeless_powder

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Feb 18, 2024 03:07:27   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Wyantry wrote:
Oxygen IS NOT REQUIRED for ammunition to ignite and expel a projectile!

That is why guns may be fired underwater or in space.


See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokeless_powder


It needs oxygen but not air. Sodium nitrate in the gunpowder oxidizes to create combustion.

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Feb 18, 2024 03:33:27   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Texcaster wrote:
Sort of all the above. I'm in S.E. Queensland. Perth at the moe is 44c ... that's a lot.


... and a Fender Champ clone.


So what is the source of knowledge about conditions in the US? I certainly hope it’s not CNN or MSNBC. Generally speaking journalism is dead in the US and those two networks are the proof of it. Sensational coverage sells ads. They don’t have any curiosity and are functionally the Pravda arm of the leftist agenda. Also, what do you know about the bill of rights? Do you have analogs for free speech, rights against self incrimination, right to keep and bear arms? Curious as in a different conversation by a kiwi she said she wouldn’t visit the US if President Trump was re-elected. Never quite understood why.

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Feb 18, 2024 08:12:35   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
I'm not a gun enthusiast, so go ahead tell me hpw stupid I am. But do you have an solution... or are you as stupid as me?


what do youmean by "useless".....maybe inoperable would be more correct??

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Feb 18, 2024 08:19:33   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:


Thank you my friend for so much common sense that will never be understood by the Left. Actually they don't give a damn about any of that. They don't care about safety, victims and so on. Their sole goal is to destroy the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution as well as the 1st, 4th and 5th in order to complete their Democratic Socialist takeover of the greatest country on the planet.

Dennis
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yes...and how many of those dont even choose to live here, regardless of firearm issues!!

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Feb 18, 2024 08:21:18   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Wyantry wrote:
Repeating arms, cannon, shotguns, air rifles all existed prior to 1780. So modern derivatives of those are just about what we have available now . . . .

A. “The Girandoni Repeating Air Rifle was designed and made by an Italian in 1790 and was used by Lewis & Clark 1803 to 1806. This is a 22 shot repeater that can fire 22 rounds in 30 seconds. Reload in seconds with a clip or tube of 22 qty count of 46 caliber balls. They could fire a total of 44 rounds in about a minute.
https://downloads.regulations.gov › ...
1790 Girandoni Repeating Rifle… A 2nd Amendment USA History Lesson”

B. “The earliest weapon that fits the general description of a repeating firearm is the Puckle Gun, invented in 1718 by James Puckle. The Puckle was a hand-cranked repeating flintlock, which in some respects was more advanced than Samuel Colt's revolving pistol patented 118 years later.” Jun 15, 2019
https://www.quora.com

C. “Although repeating flintlock breechloading firearms (e.g. the Lorenzóni repeater, Cookson repeater, and Kalthoff repeater) had been invented as early as the 17th century . . .” —Wikipedia

D. Rockets — were available as multiple-shot arrays as far back as the 10th century.

E. Repeating (semi-automatic) crossbows

F. “The polybolos (the name means "multi-thrower" in Greek) was an ancient Greek repeating ballista, reputedly invented by Dionysius of Alexandria (a 3rd-century BC Greek engineer at the Rhodes arsenal,) and used in antiquity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Polybolos - Wikipedia
Repeating arms, cannon, shotguns, air rifles all e... (show quote)


nice post..but wasted on the left

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Feb 18, 2024 10:32:54   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
wilpharm wrote:
nice post..but wasted on the left


By the continued squealing from the “lefties”, it is apparent facts do not get in the way of their prejudices.

Or delusions.

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Feb 18, 2024 11:38:44   #
ntonkin Loc: western Upper Peninusla of Michigan
 
You could take a hammer and a chisel and cut the cartridge in half or partially cut it right behind the bullet. This would make the cartridge useless. Someone could, however, salvage the gunpowder and once enough is salvaged, a bomb could be made.

If we make guns/ammo hard enough to obtain, people who want to kill other people will likely resort to making bombs to kill people with.

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Feb 18, 2024 11:56:20   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
clint f. wrote:
So what is the source of knowledge about conditions in the US? I certainly hope it’s not CNN or MSNBC. Generally speaking journalism is dead in the US and those two networks are the proof of it. Sensational coverage sells ads. They don’t have any curiosity and are functionally the Pravda arm of the leftist agenda. Also, what do you know about the bill of rights? Do you have analogs for free speech, rights against self incrimination, right to keep and bear arms? Curious as in a different conversation by a kiwi she said she wouldn’t visit the US if President Trump was re-elected. Never quite understood why.
So what is the source of knowledge about condition... (show quote)




With all due respect to you the Left has no interest in conditions in the US when it comes to gun control. Their ideas come from nothing more foolish than someone shoots another person(s) with a firearm that scares them, makes their little hearts shed a tear and they instantly think to themselves, if there were no firearms then nobody would be killed.

Statistics many of us have presented indicate the assault rifle lookalikes are involved in a tiny percentage, maybe less than 1-2%, of shootings by criminals. That means nothing to them. The Left conveniently ignore those FACTS. The FACT knives are used in more violent deaths than those from assault rifle lookalikes means nothing to them. Their other downfall toward foolishness is they object to the 2nd Amendment. They want America to go to a Socialist type government where the government has the power rather than We the People as guaranteed in the Constitution. Those on the Left think America has gotten too powerful on the world stage and want us knocked down a few pegs so other countries don't look up to us, to the freedoms we hold dear, to the financial opportunities the theory of Capitalism offers to those who come to this country. The 2nd Amendment prevents a tyrannical government from taking over. The 2nd amendment allows We the People to stand up to prevent that from happening.

The Left tells us we can continue to keep certain firearms, carefully and strictly regulated, for hunting purposes but not for self defense and definitely not for protection of this great nation. But they forget this anti gun debate has already been settled in 1789.

Dennis

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Feb 18, 2024 12:00:03   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
wilpharm wrote:
nice post..but wasted on the left




The Left has been told of these facts numerous times by many of us. But every time I post information showing they are completely wrong there were numerous repeaters during the Revolutionary War and before the war, not one person has come forward to admit they were not aware of those repeating firearms. The Founding Fathers were certainly aware of repeating firearms but they were not in general use for the military back then. But to claim ONLY single shot muskets such as the Brown Bess were in use is completely false.

So goes the continuing anti American lies from the Left.

Dennis

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