Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

It’s a ridiculous notion as guns will not be eliminated and eliminating guns is not going to eliminate psychopaths. We will always have a need to separate serious offenders in our society that is governed by those who can’t see many of the genuine causes and perpetrators of serious crime. “It’s the gun’s fault!”

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

Why would I EVER expect reason?

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

Over 10,000 people are killed by drunk drivers each year. Eliminate alcoholic beverages or automobiles and we'd all be safer with fewer incarcerated. The program would save 10,000 lives a year. It's called planning ahead, not next plan.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

As long as the second amendment exists that will not happen. The answer lies in spending another 80 billion into the prison pot and enforce gun crimes properly and send the shooters to jail or to their maker.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

If people will bother to look at the video footage, they may clearly observe some “Good Guys” WITHOUT guns tackling one of the perps. And a woman sequestering the gun the perp had been carrying.

The REASON the perps were not stopped by the hypothetical Good Guy(s) With Gun(s), is pretty damn obvious:
The Good Guys were obeying the law(s)! NOT carrying in a public location. NOT breaking the law!
The “Good Guys” were aware that even carrying a gun in such a crowd (let alone USING IT) could endanger more than possibly protect.

It was Criminals who broke laws, not responsible gun owners.
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In regards the assertion ever more gun-control laws are required:
It is a fact there are ALREADY “responsible gun laws” in force. From background checks to waiting periods, Licenses to location-bans, Concealed carry versus Open carry restrictions, Extreme Risk Protection Orders and more.

The biggest problem is A LACK OF ENFORCEMENT of those laws.
As well as a LACK OF PROSECUTION of gun-law breakers.
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As to ”Why can anyone, possess and conceal a firearm with no permit?”
The answer is very simple: The Second Amendment !

The First amendment reaffirms your/everyone’s inalienable right to piss, moan, bitch or (now) post in internet forums.

The Second amendment reaffirms the inalienable right to prevent the government(s) from disrupting the First and other amendments.
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As written in the Declaration of Independence:
”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
(Emphasis added)

The underlying power to do so is codified by the Second Amendment.
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The fanciful allegation that the National Rifle Association (NRA) is somehow responsible for promoting CRIMINAL activity is a disgraceful lie. As is the calumny the NRA somehow “buys” Representatives and/or Senators.

The collective members of the NRA are known (by Government data) to be among the most law-abiding citizens in the nation.

NRA members are in favor of, and promote, constitutional rights and freedoms and disagree strongly (and non-violently) to those (Democrats, Liberals, Socialists, Communists) who would restrict or deny Constitutional declarations: the Law of the Land.

Watash

Anti-gun people will rage about people with guns killing people but never say a word about banning the tools and
equipment to kill thousands upon thousands of babies.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Just what we need a police state that violates a persons liberty and constitutional rights.
Importing ? Do you know where MS13 originated?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

If people really wanted to address the issue they would study the demographics of murder but that is an issue that our liberal friends do not want to address.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Yeah right, I would have no problem being frisked especially if I know that such actions by the police are taking guns and gang bangers off of the streets and making communities safer while saving lives. It is not that huge of an infringement on my rights, possibly not really an infringement at all as that would be for the courts to decide and it would also be highly dependent on how the policies outlining such a program were developed.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

It may have started in LA but it did not stay there as it is throughout Mexico and Central America now, NYC, Chicago, and other cities are having problems caused by criminal gangs recently immigrated from Venezuela as well.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Los Angeles, CA, U.S.A.

[i]”MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, is a transnational criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, in the 1980s. The majority of its members are Central Americans, mainly Salvadorans.Jul 12, 2023
https://greydynamics.com › mara-salvatrucha.
Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13): From El Salvador to Los Angeles - Grey Dynamics

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Some times the bad guys are faster.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

The availability of guns “in the wrong hands” is a problem not the availability of guns. Additionally, when I leave my home with a concealed weapon I don’t do it with the intention of getting in a gun fight. I realize that if someone unknown to me is able to direct rounds in my direction before I recognize the threat he/she may win that fight but short of that if I have the time to respond then I would hope I would have the presence to engage. I will not unnecessarily allow myself or those around me to be victimized. One may not always win but one would hope your in the fight rather than huddled in the corner hoping you’re not the next to catch one.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

If people will bother to look at the video footage, they may clearly observe some “Good Guys” WITHOUT guns tackling one of the perps. And a woman sequestering the gun the perp had been carrying.

The REASON the perps were not stopped by the hypothetical Good Guy(s) With Gun(s), is pretty damn obvious:
The Good Guys were obeying the law(s)! NOT carrying in a public location. NOT breaking the law!

The “Good Guys” were aware that carrying a gun in such a crowd (let alone USING IT) could endanger more than possibly protect.

It was Criminals who broke laws, not responsible gun owners.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Hey, while we are in the dungeon, I have an airsoft gun, want to hunt cockroaches for fun?
I once saw a cop who got bored during break time of a training exercise hunting them in a dumpster with a fully automatic paintball training Uzi look alike. Some very colorful cockroaches around the dumpster for a few days.