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Feb 13, 2024 07:29:54   #
BebuLamar
 
selmslie wrote:
Those of us who were around when it happened in 1974 knew that it was only an inconsequential change in the way that Film speed was labeled.


At the time it's more like a combination of the 2 standards ASA and DIN together. ASA 100 is supposed to be ISO100/21°

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Feb 13, 2024 08:42:13   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
At the time it's more like a combination of the 2 standards ASA and DIN together. ASA 100 is supposed to be ISO100/21°

They are two ways to describe film sensitivity or digital sensitivity and gain. They both serve the same purpose.

ISO is an arithmetic progression. DIN is a logarithmic version of the same thing.

The exposure triangle works for both ISO and DIN. It's the same for film and digital.

The only thing that you can do with ISO that you can't do with DIN is the Sunny 16 rule.

ISO and DIN 1/3 stop increments
ISO and DIN 1/3 stop increments...

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Feb 13, 2024 09:00:27   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
TonyP wrote:
Oh. When you got so upset as to use capital letters in your statement, I thought you might have known what you were talking about.
Obviously not.
Well to answer your question; why not?
Because the world of photography doesn't revolve around America, like maybe it used to back in the days of film.
Today, ASA, the American Standards Association 'system' still refers to the amount of sensitivity film has to light.
It was when digital started to rear its convenient head, it was realised ASA wasn't going to have the range to cope with sensors that would eventually be a lot more sensitive to light than film.
That's when the International Organisation for Standards got involved and ISO was born.
25 ASA to maybe 800 ASA and today we already have sensors with sensitivity north of 13000 ISO.
To all intents and purposes ISO and ASA are the same, but there is a slight difference. I won't go into that aspect here as I cant actually remember what the diff is and it doesn't really matter.

Hope that answers your question CPO.
Cheers
Oh. When you got so upset as to use capital letter... (show quote)


USING CAPITAL LETTERS MEANS I'M UPSET? I'M NOT UPSET! WHY WOULD I BE UPSET? KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? SOMETIMES! SOMETIMES I JUST RATTLE ALONG! IS THAT OK? IS IT OK WITH YOU IF I USE EXCLAMATION MARKS! NO, I'M NOT EXCITED! I JUST THINK THEY ARE CUTE!
HOPE THAT CLEARS THINGS UP MATE!
CHEERS

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Feb 13, 2024 09:34:58   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Retired CPO wrote:
USING CAPITAL LETTERS MEANS I'M UPSET? I'M NOT UPSET! WHY WOULD I BE UPSET? KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? SOMETIMES! SOMETIMES I JUST RATTLE ALONG! IS THAT OK? IS IT OK WITH YOU IF I USE EXCLAMATION MARKS! NO, I'M NOT EXCITED! I JUST THINK THEY ARE CUTE!
HOPE THAT CLEARS THINGS UP MATE!
CHEERS

It actually means you are not familiar with the forum rules:

"- Do not make posts in all capital letters. This includes topic titles. (You might consider using your browser's zoom feature to increase the size of the font in case you are experiencing difficulties reading/writing.)"

Posting in all caps is actually rude.

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Feb 13, 2024 18:28:32   #
Expressoman1 Loc: Jupiter, Fl. USA
 
I have owned several RB67, and RZ67
over the years.
There is not ISO SETTING IN THE CAMERA , you just have to know the ISO of the film that you are using And use a light meter or. s flash meter measure yhe scene light reflected or incident and set your exposure avcordingly.

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Feb 13, 2024 19:11:23   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
agillot wrote:
Jerry , get a basic Gossen pilot to start with , later on if needed you can break the bank and get a fancy one .


I used a Gossen (Luna pro?) with my Hasselblad. Loved that light meter.

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Feb 13, 2024 19:33:21   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
BebuLamar wrote:
ISO were used way before there were digital cameras.


Really, my book advises the ISO standard for photography was established in 1974.
Wasn't that about the same time that a digital camera was first sold?
By the way, its ISO 'was' used, not 'were' used.

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Here ya go from Google:
The ISO standard was created in 1974 by combining previous camera standards ASA and DIN. Here we will discuss how this camera standard is important for photography and how users can adjust the same to get better photos.21 Feb 2022

Why has this become such a contentious subject, with so much silly misinformation coming to the fore from people with limited knowledge but just want to be heard?
Becoming more and more prevalent on UHH.
I'm tired of the notifications and am unwatching this. Have fun.

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Feb 13, 2024 22:06:07   #
BebuLamar
 
TonyP wrote:
Really, my book advises the ISO standard for photography was established in 1974.
Wasn't that about the same time that a digital camera was first sold?
By the way, its ISO 'was' used, not 'were' used.

Edit
Here ya go from Google:
The ISO standard was created in 1974 by combining previous camera standards ASA and DIN. Here we will discuss how this camera standard is important for photography and how users can adjust the same to get better photos.21 Feb 2022

Why has this become such a contentious subject, with so much silly misinformation coming to the fore from people with limited knowledge but just want to be heard?
Becoming more and more prevalent on UHH.
I'm tired of the notifications and am unwatching this. Have fun.
Really, my book advises the ISO standard for photo... (show quote)


The first digital camera was invented by Kodak in 1975 but they didn't sell it.

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