Cost of Charging an EV
Feb 11, 2024 18:38:27 #
I have a 3 car garage. I own Brutus (a Ford Expedition - with towing package), Joulee (yeah - - look up James Prescott Joule) a Huyndai Tucson Hybrid (previous Prius x2 and a Ford Fusion Plugin Hybrid (Electra) - discontinued - traded in on the Hyundai {can't buy foreign plug-ins in Texas - and carry a $15K dealer mark-up in Colorado}). I would LOVE to own a Tesla Plaid - JUST for the 1.99 Sec 0-60 capability to beat ANYTHING off the mark (Including a Corvette). I have a 240V charging station in my garage - left over from the Fusion - so that is where the Plaid would live. BUT - I would NEVER drive the Plaid out of my local area due to recharge pricing and hassles, but would probably ALWAYS drive it locally just for the stealth fun of it. The Hyundai would be used for travel, and the Expedition for trips to Home Depot for plywood and 10' 2x4's.
The ONLY thing holding me back on the Plaid is waiting for my Lottery Ticket to win (I guess I oughta buy one).
The ONLY thing holding me back on the Plaid is waiting for my Lottery Ticket to win (I guess I oughta buy one).
Feb 11, 2024 18:43:00 #
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Feb 11, 2024 20:15:49 #
dwmoar
Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
BebuLamar wrote:
3 hours at 7.3kW that's 21.6 on the value. The unit is h*kW and it's kWh. They didn't change anything since you're born. You just didn't pay much attention to it which I do not blame you. There are much more important thing for you to pay attention to.
3 times 7.3 = 21.9 not 21.6
Feb 11, 2024 20:26:33 #
dwmoar
Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
Longshadow wrote:
Take fuel consumption at the rate of 1GPM. After 3 minutes you don't have 3 GPM you have consumed 3 gallons....
Oh, I paid attention.......
Oh, I paid attention.......
your right it is not 3 GPM it is still just 1 GPM for 3 minutes.
If you are consuming 7.3 Kwh for 3 hours you have used a total of 21.9Kwh What ever the number consumed over a given time it is still listed in Kwh. The 7.3Kwh is that amount that can be given over a set period of time.
Feb 11, 2024 20:51:27 #
Feb 11, 2024 20:53:00 #
dwmoar wrote:
your right it is not 3 GPM it is still just 1 GPM for 3 minutes.
If you are consuming 7.3 Kwh for 3 hours you have used a total of 21.9Kwh What ever the number consumed over a given time it is still listed in Kwh. The 7.3Kwh is that amount that can be given over a set period of time.
If you are consuming 7.3 Kwh for 3 hours you have used a total of 21.9Kwh What ever the number consumed over a given time it is still listed in Kwh. The 7.3Kwh is that amount that can be given over a set period of time.
7.3kW (not kWh here) for 3 hours you have used total of 21.9kWh.
Feb 11, 2024 21:29:17 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
andesbill wrote:
..........There is a map of ground pollution from oil, gas and chemical spillage from gas stations, drilling and moving oil, diesel and gas.
It will take time, but we are better off moving to EV vehicles.
You don’t want one, that’s ok, but I’m telling you, try driving the Tesla. Floor the sucker. You still won’t get it, but it will make you smile.
It will take time, but we are better off moving to EV vehicles.
You don’t want one, that’s ok, but I’m telling you, try driving the Tesla. Floor the sucker. You still won’t get it, but it will make you smile.
And there are maps showing where they have removed lithium from and I am sure you wouldn't want to live anywhere near there either. So while China is pulling lithium from the ground and building ever more coal fired power stations to process it YOU are now seeing some of the results of this in changed weather patterns. The US appears to have spent the last 20-40 years removing the pollution away from its own shores to somebody elses.
I do think we will see EVs as a major change down the track but not in the form that is now being pushed onto us.
And this is assuming that they can increase the copper reserves and ramp up mining to make the motors. There will some serious concerns here surfacing in the not too distant future. There is no alternative to copper so it might get to a point where lithium shortages aren't the limiting factor in EV production.
Do not underestimate mankind's ability to hide the downsides of all this until it will be too late.
My advice would be to move to a place that can grow all its own food but is too far away for greedy neighbours to be able to acquire it. And after acquiring enough dirt to do this then invest in a saddle manufacturing facility.
Feb 11, 2024 22:23:27 #
1967: The Graduate - - Plastics.
1999: G00gle, Micros89t, 3rapple - Buy Now
2024: The World - - Modular Nuclear Reactors (MNR).
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I live in Texas where in 2021 Green Energy FAILED - and the grid went down.
Green Energy doesn't work. Petro-Energy has been politically throttled.
Our current US energy generation capacities cannot support the rise of EV's - without help.-
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I'd still like to play with a Plaid :)
1999: G00gle, Micros89t, 3rapple - Buy Now
2024: The World - - Modular Nuclear Reactors (MNR).
-
I live in Texas where in 2021 Green Energy FAILED - and the grid went down.
Green Energy doesn't work. Petro-Energy has been politically throttled.
Our current US energy generation capacities cannot support the rise of EV's - without help.-
-
I'd still like to play with a Plaid :)
Feb 12, 2024 07:01:31 #
Longshadow wrote:
I divide the total electric bill by the KWH I used to get my cost per KWH.
After all the total, including fees and taxes, is what I had to pay to use the electricity....
And wouldn't charging at a public charging station cost more?
Who paid for the charging stations and installation?
No cost recovery involved?
After all the total, including fees and taxes, is what I had to pay to use the electricity....
And wouldn't charging at a public charging station cost more?
Who paid for the charging stations and installation?
No cost recovery involved?
Do EV's users touting low cost of EV charging include the installation cost of a home charging system when calculating their savings...which can be upwards of $2500 or more depending on capability? Who paid for the charging system? I'm guessing not.
Feb 12, 2024 07:29:59 #
Blaster34 wrote:
Do EV's users touting low cost of EV charging include the installation cost of a home charging system when calculating their savings...which can be upwards of $2500 or more depending on capability? Who paid for the charging system? I'm guessing not.
Most home charger is really just an outlet. The charger is built in the car.
Feb 12, 2024 07:33:33 #
Feb 12, 2024 07:36:24 #
Merlin1300 wrote:
1967: The Graduate - - Plastics.
1999: G00gle, Micros89t, 3rapple - Buy Now
2024: The World - - Modular Nuclear Reactors (MNR).
-
I live in Texas where in 2021 Green Energy FAILED - and the grid went down.
Green Energy doesn't work. Petro-Energy has been politically throttled.
Our current US energy generation capacities cannot support the rise of EV's - without help.-
-
I'd still like to play with a Plaid :)
1999: G00gle, Micros89t, 3rapple - Buy Now
2024: The World - - Modular Nuclear Reactors (MNR).
-
I live in Texas where in 2021 Green Energy FAILED - and the grid went down.
Green Energy doesn't work. Petro-Energy has been politically throttled.
Our current US energy generation capacities cannot support the rise of EV's - without help.-
-
I'd still like to play with a Plaid :)
The reason the Texas grid failed in the winter of 2021 was due to the fact that Texas refuses to connect to the rest of the country’s grid. Rugged independent minded and sometimes foolish. But that’s Texas.
Feb 12, 2024 07:38:51 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Most home charger is really just an outlet. The charger is built in the car.
It’s just a standard residential clothes dryer outlet. I think my electrician charged $200 to wire it to my garage panel.
Feb 12, 2024 07:54:57 #
Blaster34 wrote:
Do EV's users touting low cost of EV charging include the installation cost of a home charging system when calculating their savings...which can be upwards of $2500 or more depending on capability? Who paid for the charging system? I'm guessing not.
You're probably right. They're simply looking at cost of use, not total cost of ownership.
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