Jury Duty
Feb 11, 2024 06:37:53 #
Horseart wrote:
I would have been happy to serve, but was never called.
I’m glad you are happy to serve jury duty. I am too. It is a privilege as a citizen of the USA.
Previously, I asked why people choose not to serve. I was met with a snarky response. As such, I feel that what ever reason someone does not want to be chosen, so be it. However, a list should be created of those who have no wish to serve. If you are on that list, you are not entitled to a jury trial. At least it should keep people from committing crimes.
Feb 11, 2024 07:22:50 #
Scruples wrote:
Now that would be a great sketch. Every one of the jurors can be old men and women, perhaps some might have a romance on the side, the Judge and the lawyers are just out of law school. Even the janitor who cleans up is a kid. I would be laughing as hard a I could.
I'm laughing now. That must have been done in a movie or TV show.
I'll have to watch this movie - https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/jury-duty-freevee-2023-best-new-comedy-so-far/
Feb 11, 2024 07:49:00 #
Iam 86 & have never been calld for jury duty. My wife,slightly younger, but now deceased, was called multiple times, but always excused because of a hearing disability.
Feb 11, 2024 09:34:08 #
chrissybabe wrote:
Why can't scumbags just accept that they did the deed and plead guilty ? They all seem to think that if they plead not guilty that they will get away with it. It is almost as if you can work out their IQ from their plea. Or in some cases the IQ of their lawyers.
Here in England they are playing the system. They frequently plead not guilty until the morning of their trial. By pleading guilty when they actually appear before the judge they get a lesser sentence than if they pleaded not guilty.
By pleading not guilty up to the trial date they spend more time on remand in custody. The time spent on remand is multiplied by one and one third, or one and one half time to be taken off their sentence as time already served.
As they are so obviously guilty they have thus cut their prison time.
Feb 11, 2024 09:35:40 #
Craig Meyer
Loc: Sparks, NV
"If IF's and BUTS were fruits and nuts, everyday would-be Christmas."
As our grandpaws usedta say.
As our grandpaws usedta say.
Feb 11, 2024 12:27:04 #
jiminnee wrote:
Iam 86 & have never been calld for jury duty. My wife,slightly younger, but now deceased, was called multiple times, but always excused because of a hearing disability.
Please accept my sorrow for your loss.
Feb 11, 2024 12:36:04 #
Clapperboard wrote:
Here in England they are playing the system. They ... (show quote)
Playing the system seems to be the norm. Actually, criminals go to jail not to be rehabilitated. They learn how to commit other crimes from other inmates and how to attempt to convince others of their innocence. When I worked as a civilian pharmacist, I became aware that most prisons have Law Libraries.
If these people learned how to be considerate, unselfish and law-abiding the jails might be empty.
Every day that passes, I thank my parents for teaching me that stuff to my sister and I. Now it’s my turn to teach my three children.
Feb 11, 2024 12:55:20 #
I believe that if you are 70 or over you may be elected but you have the option to appear or not.
Feb 11, 2024 14:31:33 #
Wyantry wrote:
I am a sworn deputy, so apparently exempt according to their questionnaire form.
Evidently actually KNOWING something about the law/legal system is not desirable.
Evidently actually KNOWING something about the law/legal system is not desirable.
That's exactly right. Members of the jury are supposed to only base their decisions on what they heard and learned while in the courtroom during the course of the trial. Everything else is to be left at the door. For people who work in law enforcement and the legal profession, this can be very difficult for them.
Feb 11, 2024 15:00:40 #
OldCADuser wrote:
That's exactly right. Members of the jury are supposed to only base their decisions on what they heard and learned while in the courtroom during the course of the trial. Everything else is to be left at the door. For people who work in law enforcement and the legal profession, this can be very difficult for them.
Doesn't the same thing, at some level, affect every cognitvely functioning prospective juror?
I mean, most people who report for jury duty are not empty heads, just pristine and sterilized in the cranial spaces, without some knowledge of something going on in the world of life around them.
I used to be a pain in the backside to the Government/Civics class teacher in high school over this question:
-- HOW is a person supposed to be expected to remove all prior experience and knowledge from their mind and memory in order to go as a juror and truthfully say they can be completely 'unbiased' and 'impartial' and not informed by anything other than what they are instructed to hear or disregard having heard in the courtroom?
To me, that does not seem practically possible, without importing people who were hatched in a test tube in a sterile lab, and kept in sealed isolation bottles in that sterile lab, until their number came up to be put in a jury, with no knowledge of real life, and no memories nor life experience other than the test tube/sealed bottle of that sterile lab.
Feb 11, 2024 17:14:54 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Scruples wrote:
Playing the system seems to be the norm. Actually,... (show quote)
I wouldn't make any blanket statement that criminals can't be rehabilitated. Some have proven that they can be. The problem with the prison environment is the proximity to others who can't be rehabilitated who may influence others around them. I don't remember where I saw/heard/read it, but it was discovered that group therapy for sex offenders proved counter productive. Inmates would listen to others tell their stories and think, "Why didn't I think of that?"
Feb 11, 2024 20:15:32 #
therwol wrote:
I wouldn't make any blanket statement that criminals can't be rehabilitated. Some have proven that they can be……..
Perhaps there are some that will be rehabilitated. I am a strong believer that there is a high rate of recidivism.
Feb 11, 2024 20:59:35 #
Wyantry
Loc: SW Colorado
Scruples wrote:
Perhaps there are some that will be rehabilitated. I am a strong believer that there is a high rate of recidivism.
Statistics prove the rates of recidivism are indeed high. Provable by long criminal records.
Feb 11, 2024 21:30:52 #
scallihan
Loc: Tigard, OR
jerryc41 wrote:
I received a notice from the County Clerk telling ... (show quote)
In Los Angeles, if called for jury duty, you registered, then called in every morning between xx dates at xx time to find out if you were to appear the following day. Pretty civilized way to do it.
Feb 11, 2024 22:56:55 #
[quote=Scruples]Playing the system seems to be the norm. Actually, criminals go to jail not to be rehabilitated. They learn how to commit other crimes from other inmates and how to attempt to convince others of their innocence.
And they forget that the people they are learning from are, guess where! In jail because their methods of getting away with crime didn't work. Probably not the best teachers of the subject.
And they forget that the people they are learning from are, guess where! In jail because their methods of getting away with crime didn't work. Probably not the best teachers of the subject.
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