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Feb 11, 2024 07:26:54   #
kevin1964
 
I think its because the d7200 is a crop sensor camera and the z6 is a full frame sensor. That may be why your getting all the confusion. Imnot that familiar with the mirrorlesscameras so cant comment any further.

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Feb 11, 2024 07:41:12   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
After 4 pages of confusion about Nikon, this is the reason I switched from Nikon F to Canon waaay back in the day...šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰

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Feb 11, 2024 08:33:49   #
george19
 
Walkabout08 wrote:
The benefits of the Z system are the improvements in the new lenses. If you donā€™t acquire the new S line of lenses to go with your Z6 you really are wasting your time and money. Remember camera bodies are considered consumables, the lenses are going to last you a long, long time. Also youā€™re asking about matching a full frame camera with crop format lenses which seems like a losing proposition.


Fair points. I had a GAS attack two years ago and was deciding between a D850 and a Z7ii. I opted for the Z, partly because of the weight, and also bought the FTZ. Ohā€¦I was using a D810 (which I still own), but had only been buying full frame glass since 2004, when I didnā€™t even know the difference. Lucky move on my part.

When I found out my D glass wasnā€™t as compatible as Iā€™d like, I started buying Z glass. Yesā€¦I have not replaced my 200-500, and being a newer lens, it works just fine on the Z. Iā€™m currently debating a Z100-400, mostly for weight reasons for a trip Iā€™m planning and donā€™t want to carry the beast. The counter-argument is that I doubt Iā€™ll get the use out of it anyway.

My point: if you think you want the Z, buy it. Youā€™ll wean into Z glass as you find a need.

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Feb 11, 2024 09:57:19   #
GLSmith Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
Guaranteed positively & totally accurate answer. Call Nikon

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Feb 11, 2024 10:03:00   #
Temuna
 
Spend a little less money, get a Z5 and use the ā€œsavingsā€ to buy a Z lens.

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Feb 11, 2024 10:12:42   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Strodav wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter with a D7200 and Z9. I will never sell my D7200 as it is the most fun camera I have. It's in my photo shoulder go bag and used often for street photography. The 18-140mm kit lens is one of the best pieces of DX glass out there. I cannot recommend a Z6, or Z7 for that matter. They were Nikon's first foray in to mirrorless and were well behind the competition. At a minimum I'd go for a Z6 II, but even that is well behind the curve.

If you are looking at the Z6 because of price, I'd recommend selling all your Nikon stuff and looking at Canon, which has much better performance, especially AF, around the same prices for Nikon used gear.

The only Nikon mirrorless cameras I recommend are the Z8 (2023 camera of the year) and Z9. I mainly use my Z9 for birding and sports, and use my D7200 and D850 for most everything else.
I am a Nikon shooter with a D7200 and Z9. I will ... (show quote)


You most likely like the D7200 because of its weight -- easier to manipulate in the field when compared to the z9 or the 850. Get a z8 and you will have the same experience of size and weight and it will replace both the 7200 and D850.

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Feb 11, 2024 10:24:59   #
BebuLamar
 
I think the Nikon Z camera can use all Nikon F mount lenses including those that can not be used on DSLR or even film SLR.

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Feb 11, 2024 11:15:13   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
george19 wrote:
Fair points. I had a GAS attack two years ago and was deciding between a D850 and a Z7ii. I opted for the Z, partly because of the weight, and also bought the FTZ. Ohā€¦I was using a D810 (which I still own), but had only been buying full frame glass since 2004, when I didnā€™t even know the difference. Lucky move on my part.

When I found out my D glass wasnā€™t as compatible as Iā€™d like, I started buying Z glass. Yesā€¦I have not replaced my 200-500, and being a newer lens, it works just fine on the Z. Iā€™m currently debating a Z100-400, mostly for weight reasons for a trip Iā€™m planning and donā€™t want to carry the beast. The counter-argument is that I doubt Iā€™ll get the use out of it anyway.

My point: if you think you want the Z, buy it. Youā€™ll wean into Z glass as you find a need.
Fair points. I had a GAS attack two years ago and... (show quote)


If you want to go light, here is a suggestion: The sharpest lens I own seems to be the 300 f4 PF, and I have some very good lenses like the 85 f 1.4, and the 70-200 II. If you take the 300 and add a 1.4 extender, you will have a 450mm f5.6 lens. Some people feel the addition of an extender degrades the quality of a photo but it has been my experience that it is so slight as not to be a factor. The 300 is very lightweight and very sharp.

Before someone jumps in and tells you, you can't combine an F-mount extender onto a z adaptor, and that you will lose functionality, well, they haven't tried it and do not know what they are talking about. Below are two shots I took minutes ago out my front door using that exact combination: 300 f4 + z adaptor + 1.4 extender. I think the sharpness is pretty darn good. Autofocus and auto-exposure worked perfectly. The lamp post was f7.1 @ 200, ISO 200, and the street sign was f7.1 @ 80, ISO 200.


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Feb 11, 2024 11:46:28   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Bridges wrote:
If you want to go light, here is a suggestion: The sharpest lens I own seems to be the 300 f4 PF, and I have some very good lenses like the 85 f 1.4, and the 70-200 II. If you take the 300 and add a 1.4 extender, you will have a 450mm f5.6 lens. Some people feel the addition of an extender degrades the quality of a photo but it has been my experience that it is so slight as not to be a factor. The 300 is very lightweight and very sharp.

Before someone jumps in and tells you, you can't combine an F-mount extender onto a z adaptor, and that you will lose functionality, well, they haven't tried it and do not know what they are talking about. Below are two shots I took minutes ago out my front door using that exact combination: 300 f4 + z adaptor + 1.4 extender. I think the sharpness is pretty darn good. Autofocus and auto-exposure worked perfectly. The lamp post was f7.1 @ 200, ISO 200, and the street sign was f7.1 @ 80, ISO 200.
If you want to go light, here is a suggestion: Th... (show quote)


AFAIK you can use either an F mount TC or a Z mount TC when using a F mount lens with a FTZ adapter. Have no idea which would work out better or if there were any difference. I loved my 300 PF as well, but just sold it last week as I completed my move to mirrorless 100%. If I need a 300 nowadays, I use my 100-400Z. I don't even own a TC since I obtained my 400/2.8 TC, as I really never bothered with a TC on anything but my 400 and now I have one built-in, which is very sweet. Your examples look OK, but a new Z lens would do a better job (IMHO). Also, the subjects you choose are not moving very fast and I would expect you'd have some issues with focus speed if using that combination for fast moving sports. No matter, it does work. Best of luck from your neighbor!

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Feb 11, 2024 12:06:57   #
ELNikkor
 
Big step going from DSLR DX to mirrorless "full frame". Just going from my D5100 to the D750 was a huge and welcome move up in dynamic range and blow-up-ability. My 2 cents is, if you are going to seriously go into mirrorless, a) wait for the Z6III, b) get the Z 24-120 lens. That combo will absolutely make the jump to FX mirrorless the radical improvement you are looking for. You might even have to wait/save a year for the additional cost, but that D7200 will serve you well until then, and the wait will be worth it.

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Feb 11, 2024 12:17:39   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
cjc2 wrote:
AFAIK you can use either an F mount TC or a Z mount TC when using a F mount lens with a FTZ adapter. Have no idea which would work out better or if there were any difference. I loved my 300 PF as well, but just sold it last week as I completed my move to mirrorless 100%. If I need a 300 nowadays, I use my 100-400Z. I don't even own a TC since I obtained my 400/2.8 TC, as I really never bothered with a TC on anything but my 400 and now I have one built-in, which is very sweet. Your examples look OK, but a new Z lens would do a better job (IMHO). Also, the subjects you choose are not moving very fast and I would expect you'd have some issues with focus speed if using that combination for fast moving sports. No matter, it does work. Best of luck from your neighbor!
AFAIK you can use either an F mount TC or a Z moun... (show quote)


Yes, everyone agrees the z lenses are better than the older F lenses. I only threw that out because someone might benefit from what I posted if they own F lenses and are afraid they couldn't be used with the z system. Also, the combination mentioned could be gotten for about 1000.00 used in excellent condition while the 100-400 is 2400.00 on sale. I haven't tried tracking a moving subject with that setup but expect you are correct in saying it would not track as well as a z lens.

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Feb 11, 2024 13:10:11   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
From my experiences "S" Nikon lenses will work properly all the times the rest well not so much, maybe yes, maybe no. Now... With an adaptor Almost all Canon lenses will work on a Z.

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Feb 11, 2024 13:30:01   #
RKastner Loc: Davenport, FL
 
Djacks1 wrote:
Attempting to go from Nikon D7200 to Nikon Z6 and totally confused about what Iā€™ve been told. Person at Photo shop says i absolutely cannot use my current Nikon DX lens on the Z6. Others say i can use them with the Z mount attachment but i will lose resolution and it will be cropped differently. So, whatā€™s the truth?


I went from DSLR to mirrorless for Canon recently, but I'm sure it's the same with Nikon. If you don't want to sell your lenses I'm sure there's an adapter available for you to use your existing lenses.

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Feb 11, 2024 14:15:45   #
Frank Gossett Loc: Colleyville, TX
 
I went from D5100 to Z6 about 4 years ago. I have not tried my DX Lenses, but my understanding is that they will be reduced to 10 mp. (The 5100 was at 15mp I believe.)
I got the 24-70 s - f4 kit lens and used it until I started to aquirte otheres: 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.8, 85mm f1.8 and a 24-200mm f4-6.3.
I use the 24-200 most but use the prime f1.8 to photograph my Grandaughter's Basketball and Volleyball.
If comparing the sharpeness of the two Zoom lenses, the 24-7 s is best, but it doesn't reach as far as I'd like.
I have read others say the 24-120 s is a great lens, but it still doesn't have the reach.
For economics, I would recommend some vintage lenses in your desired focal length with an adapter. When focus Peaking is turned on the Z6 renders a very, very good image. I have several vintage lenses that I've bought at Estate Sales.

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Feb 11, 2024 15:42:16   #
Flsaunders
 
Djacks1 wrote:
Attempting to go from Nikon D7200 to Nikon Z6 and totally confused about what Iā€™ve been told. Person at Photo shop says i absolutely cannot use my current Nikon DX lens on the Z6. Others say i can use them with the Z mount attachment but i will lose resolution and it will be cropped differently. So, whatā€™s the truth?


I had the same issue with going to Mirrorless with Canon equipment. So, I purchased a Canon Adapter that enabled me to use canon lens on the new mirrorless camera. However, I do have problems using other manufacturer lens, such as Tamaron,with the adapter.

Check to see if Nikon has the same type of adapter.

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