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Feb 3, 2024 09:01:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
robertjerl wrote:
Getting that flat face requires more cross and inbreeding, after all they are all descended from long nose wolves. And the cross and inbreeding leads to problems that can shorten their lives.
My little Irish Shorty Jack Russell mix had a mom who was miniature dachshund and chihuahua, Dad was purebred Jack Russell. All long nose types and she is 14 1/2. My wife's golden shin zhu (under the fur he is fairly long nosed) is 16 1/2.


We had a couple of shih tzu dogs. They are very nice.

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Feb 3, 2024 10:53:48   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yes, I hope ours live to be very old so I can love and spoil them more.
In the case of Tara, my Irish Shorty, I first saw her at less than a week, the size of a largish mouse and brought her home from the neighbor's house at 7 weeks and about 2 lbs. She fit on my hand, nose on my middle fingertip and tail tip just reaching the wrist. I was already retired so when she got tired of playing or trying to get the cats to play I would put her in my lap as I read in the recliner, and she would walk up to my left shoulder, stick her nose in my ear and go to sleep. That rhythm of her gentle breath would put me to sleep, so we napped together.
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Feb 3, 2024 10:54:28   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We had a couple of shih tzu dogs. They are very nice.



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Feb 3, 2024 11:20:30   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small dogs with long snouts tend to live longer that flat-faced dogs. That seems to be true in my experience……..


I’m sorry but I will have to disagree. I had a black poodle named Inky. Great life and plenty of love. I owed a beautiful and extremely loyal Akita. Her name was Tina. She had a great life, plenty of toys and treat and cuddles. I often babysat my aunt’s Saint Bernard named Bagels. Plenty of fur and very overzealous affection. Lots of treat and and walks. We had a Golden Retriever named Murphy. He was a silly boy up until the day he left up. We had a phenomenal border collie Australian mix. Her name was Lucy. She enjoyed being a Therapy Dog and even taught our current dog that she was the Alpha. Our current dog is a Labrador Dalmatian mix named Bentley. Overall, our dogs over the years whether they had big noses or short snouts they had good homes lots of love and a purpose for being part of our family. They lived long and enjoyed being part of our family. I don’t think that a one snout determines one’s longevity but the love they receive. Sorry Jerry I have to disagree with you my good friend.

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Feb 3, 2024 12:01:38   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small dogs with long snouts tend to live longer that flat-faced dogs. That seems to be true in my experience.

Smaller dogs with long noses, like miniature dachshunds and shiba inus, live the longest, according to an analysis of over 580,000 dogs in the UK. After studying data from various sources, including vets, pet insurance companies and animal welfare charities, researchers found that small, long-nosed dogs of both sexes had the highest life expectancy, surviving 13.3 years on average. With an expected lifespan of just 9.1 and 9.6 years old, male and female medium-sized, flat-faced dogs had the worst outcomes, respectively. “Many flat-faced breeds, small or large, don’t do well, for example French bulldogs, St Bernards and presa canarios,” says Kirsten McMillan at Dogs Trust, a welfare charity in the UK.
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That's simply because the breeding of flat-faced dogs interferes with their breathing ability so they are more likely to get poor health outcomes at an earlier age. Breeders should be blamed for wanting looks rather than health.

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Feb 3, 2024 12:09:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
Sorry Jerry I have to disagree with you my good friend.


Don't shoot the messenger.

There are exceptions to every snout.

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Feb 3, 2024 15:43:51   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
I’m not shooting the messenger. I want my dog’s life. He get love, snacks, plenty of walks and lots of love. He has his own space in ever part of the house.

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Feb 3, 2024 15:54:07   #
Ollieboy
 
Pugs must have a/c because of their snouts. They can't handle heat.

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Feb 3, 2024 16:02:28   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small dogs with long snouts tend to live longer that flat-faced dogs. That seems to be true in my experience.

Smaller dogs with long noses, like miniature dachshunds and shiba inus, live the longest, according to an analysis of over 580,000 dogs in the UK. After studying data from various sources, including vets, pet insurance companies and animal welfare charities, researchers found that small, long-nosed dogs of both sexes had the highest life expectancy, surviving 13.3 years on average. With an expected lifespan of just 9.1 and 9.6 years old, male and female medium-sized, flat-faced dogs had the worst outcomes, respectively. “Many flat-faced breeds, small or large, don’t do well, for example French bulldogs, St Bernards and presa canarios,” says Kirsten McMillan at Dogs Trust, a welfare charity in the UK.
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I know with big dogs the limiter is the heart, it didn't grow in step with size and now has to work harder to get the blood around the bigger dogs.

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Feb 3, 2024 20:44:33   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
DebAnn wrote:
That's simply because the breeding of flat-faced dogs interferes with their breathing ability so they are more likely to get poor health outcomes at an earlier age. Breeders should be blamed for wanting looks rather than health.


Maybe dog show promoters and should take a more active role. If serious research was done toward what is the healthiest physical form for each breed of dog and points were awarded in shows for the dogs that best exemplified those qualities, then there would be improvement over all to the betterment of the dogs.

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Feb 3, 2024 20:46:26   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Jerry having a longer nose can also be unhealthy and lead to a quicker demise, depending on whose business you're poking it into.

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Feb 4, 2024 08:01:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Maybe dog show promoters and should take a more active role. If serious research was done toward what is the healthiest physical form for each breed of dog and points were awarded in shows for the dogs that best exemplified those qualities, then there would be improvement over all to the betterment of the dogs.



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Feb 4, 2024 08:01:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Jerry having a longer nose can also be unhealthy and lead to a quicker demise, depending on whose business you're poking it into.


And walking around in the dark.

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