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Feb 2, 2024 09:34:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small dogs with long snouts tend to live longer that flat-faced dogs. That seems to be true in my experience.

Smaller dogs with long noses, like miniature dachshunds and shiba inus, live the longest, according to an analysis of over 580,000 dogs in the UK. After studying data from various sources, including vets, pet insurance companies and animal welfare charities, researchers found that small, long-nosed dogs of both sexes had the highest life expectancy, surviving 13.3 years on average. With an expected lifespan of just 9.1 and 9.6 years old, male and female medium-sized, flat-faced dogs had the worst outcomes, respectively. “Many flat-faced breeds, small or large, don’t do well, for example French bulldogs, St Bernards and presa canarios,” says Kirsten McMillan at Dogs Trust, a welfare charity in the UK.
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Feb 2, 2024 09:43:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Yes, for some reason, the shorter the snout the shorter the life.
Sinus issues?

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Feb 2, 2024 09:55:21   #
kvanhook Loc: Oriental, NC
 
The oldest alligator died at 83. Many make it to 70. Long noses must be the answer.

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Feb 2, 2024 09:58:56   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kvanhook wrote:
The oldest alligator died at 83. Many make it to 70. Long noses must be the answer.

Hmmm.
Cyrano de Bergerac only lived to be 36.
But it was rough times then.

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Feb 2, 2024 09:59:07   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
In our quest to create new sub-species we've developed lots of pedigree dogs that suffer because of our efforts. Dachounds (sp?), for example, suffer spine problems from their elongated backs. Greyhounds have high rates of broken leg and hip problems. Breeds like pugs, bulldogs, etc. that have pushed in faces suffer from sinus and breathing problems among others. I'd bet these physical problems lead to average earlier deaths.

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Feb 2, 2024 10:01:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
fourlocks wrote:
In our quest to create new sub-species we've developed lots of pedigree dogs that suffer because of our efforts. Dachounds (sp?), for example, suffer spine problems from their elongated backs. Greyhounds have high rates of broken leg and hip problems. Breeds like pugs, bulldogs, etc. that have pushed in faces suffer from sinus and breathing problems among others. I'd bet these physical problems lead to average earlier deaths.

Exactly.

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Feb 2, 2024 10:26:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
fourlocks wrote:
In our quest to create new sub-species we've developed lots of pedigree dogs that suffer because of our efforts. Dachounds (sp?), for example, suffer spine problems from their elongated backs. Greyhounds have high rates of broken leg and hip problems. Breeds like pugs, bulldogs, etc. that have pushed in faces suffer from sinus and breathing problems among others. I'd bet these physical problems lead to average earlier deaths.


Right. Manipulating dogs to look "cute" isn't very good for the dogs. My dachshund is going on 13, and his back is fine.

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Feb 2, 2024 12:07:56   #
Ollieboy
 
My pug lived for 14 years and 1 month. No health issues either.

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Feb 2, 2024 12:08:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Ollieboy wrote:
My pug lived for 14 years and 1 month. No health issues either.


We had three pugs, but they didn't quite make it to 14. They're wonderful dogs, though.

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Feb 2, 2024 12:43:21   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Going to have to adjust the mortality tables on my proposed dog life insurance company. Interesting stuff, as is always the case, Jerry.

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Feb 2, 2024 13:56:47   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small dogs with long snouts tend to live longer that flat-faced dogs. That seems to be true in my experience.

Smaller dogs with long noses, like miniature dachshunds and shiba inus, live the longest, according to an analysis of over 580,000 dogs in the UK. After studying data from various sources, including vets, pet insurance companies and animal welfare charities, researchers found that small, long-nosed dogs of both sexes had the highest life expectancy, surviving 13.3 years on average. With an expected lifespan of just 9.1 and 9.6 years old, male and female medium-sized, flat-faced dogs had the worst outcomes, respectively. “Many flat-faced breeds, small or large, don’t do well, for example French bulldogs, St Bernards and presa canarios,” says Kirsten McMillan at Dogs Trust, a welfare charity in the UK.
NewScientist
Sorry, but this doesn't apply to people. Small do... (show quote)


Getting that flat face requires more cross and inbreeding, after all they are all descended from long nose wolves. And the cross and inbreeding leads to problems that can shorten their lives.
My little Irish Shorty Jack Russell mix had a mom who was miniature dachshund and chihuahua, Dad was purebred Jack Russell. All long nose types and she is 14 1/2. My wife's golden shin zhu (under the fur he is fairly long nosed) is 16 1/2.

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Feb 2, 2024 21:11:56   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
Hmmmm, in my experience, the louder and more obnoxious the dog, the longer it lives!!!

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Feb 2, 2024 21:33:42   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Right. Manipulating dogs to look "cute" isn't very good for the dogs. My dachshund is going on 13, and his back is fine.



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Feb 2, 2024 21:36:20   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
we were relieved to find our Shihtzu had the longer nose...he is going on 14, and I hope for more years of his company.

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Feb 3, 2024 02:03:03   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
flyboy61 wrote:
we were relieved to find our Shihtzu had the longer nose...he is going on 14, and I hope for more years of his company.


Yes, I hope ours live to be very old so I can love and spoil them more.
In the case of Tara, my Irish Shorty, I first saw her at less than a week, the size of a largish mouse and brought her home from the neighbor's house at 7 weeks and about 2 lbs. She fit on my hand, nose on my middle fingertip and tail tip just reaching the wrist. I was already retired so when she got tired of playing or trying to get the cats to play I would put her in my lap as I read in the recliner, and she would walk up to my left shoulder, stick her nose in my ear and go to sleep. That rhythm of her gentle breath would put me to sleep, so we napped together.

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