Fatal Crash - Now What?
Jan 31, 2024 10:40:58 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
What gets me is those people who start their signal as they start their turn.
But don't turn it off.
Jan 31, 2024 10:45:20 #
jerryc41 wrote:
But don't turn it off.
It happens when the turn is not sharp enough to trigger the turn-off mechanism.
I have three intersections near me where that happens. Not sharp turns.
Jan 31, 2024 10:47:16 #
Longshadow wrote:
It happens when the turn is not sharp enough to trigger the turn-off mechanism.
I have three intersections near me where that happens. Not sharp turns.
I have three intersections near me where that happens. Not sharp turns.
Right, and I have quite a few of those near me.
Jan 31, 2024 11:00:27 #
tradio wrote:
Round-a-bouts seem to be the big thing around here lately. I think the idea came from Europe? I have no statistics on any safety improvements these intersections provide.
Since they eliminate t-bone, they make a safer intersection and the studies back it. At worst you get a rear end or side swipe accident, much lower casualty rate. Now they are starting to change multi highway crossing, making going straight across by requiring anyone wanting to turn left or cross to instead turn right and go up to a turn around, this also increases safety by eliminating t-bones.
Jan 31, 2024 12:36:33 #
Jan 31, 2024 13:03:23 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if that model is self-driving? It seems to be a base model.
I think they are all self driving - if you have the self driving software package option.
Jan 31, 2024 13:37:50 #
John H.
Loc: Central Washington State
tradio wrote:
Round-a-bouts seem to be the big thing ....
The Great left-coast State of Washington has been installing round-a-bouts.
They are less expensive than, say, an overpass with ramps, etc.
The approach is marked, speed drops to 35, then 25 miles per hour.
Accidents still happen but at much slower speeds. Crumpled fenders beat broken bones.
Jan 31, 2024 14:43:05 #
Wyantry
Loc: SW Colorado
Haenzel wrote:
Self driving cars are better off amongst self driving cars...As long as conventional cars are in play I don't consider self driving cars a safer option...
Your post does not evidently consider the collisions of driverless vehicles with barricades, emergency vehicles, traffic re-direction signage and so forth.
What comes to mind regarding self-directed vehicles is: “Not ready for prime time.”
Jan 31, 2024 14:54:34 #
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
Wyantry wrote:
Your post does not evidently consider the collisions of driverless vehicles with barricades, emergency vehicles, traffic re-direction signage and so forth.
What comes to mind regarding self-directed vehicles is: “Not ready for prime time.”
What comes to mind regarding self-directed vehicles is: “Not ready for prime time.”
I think my post was pretty clear?
I also think "Not ready for prime time." It will take at least another 10 years before it's really safe. Real time information, which is partly still missing, and communication between vehicles, can make those cars safer.My view: If you don't want to drive take a taxi, bus or train...
Jan 31, 2024 15:36:21 #
NDMarks
Loc: Dublin, Ca
This "accident" is, of course, awful. I do have a couple of things I would like to add. I drove a tractor/trailer for 20 years. I do know that using a cell phone while driving is a violation of Federal Law and if proven, could cost the driver his/her license. Trucks are governed by state laws but also by federal laws. California law allows hands-free phone use while Federal law forbids it. Another thing to keep in mind is how long it takes to stop a big rig. On the other hand, we had a case here where the driver dropped a lit cigarette and while reaching down for it, swerved into the path of another vehicle, killing the driver. I always was leery about driving on rural roads.
Jan 31, 2024 15:45:45 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
Longshadow wrote:
Of which 90% of the people are either unaware or don't care.
I would question your 90%. My experience is about 96%. If you had to resit your practical and failed to indicate a turn properly then your licence should be instantly revoked on the spot until you could demonstrate your ability to do it properly. State income would rise quite a bit from relicensing fees, and the road toll might drop to half.
Jan 31, 2024 15:47:19 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
In New Zealand a turn appears to be more indicated by seeing the stop light come on first.
Jan 31, 2024 16:36:20 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
All of the greatest medical researchers that have ever lived, as well as modern medical science, have yet been able to find a cure for stupidity. Each time they come up with something that is "idiot proof", up comes better idiots.
I personally believe that a .45 injection will usually cure stupidity if injected in the correct place. Lol lol
Jan 31, 2024 16:40:58 #
jerryc41 wrote:
There was a fatal crash on a local highway recentl... (show quote)
This takes place on a weekly basis n our region, mainly on I-65. You can't drive 15 miles down that interstate without seeing a big scorched area on the rd where a semi rear ended a passenger vehicle at 75 mph when the cars were backed up and stopped. Either half asleep or texting for sure.
Jan 31, 2024 16:41:46 #
Jagnut07
Loc: South Carolina
Wyantry wrote:
EXCEPT for the numerous instances of self-driving ... (show quote)
According to that same report: “ According to another study published in the Journal of Safety Research, about one-third of serious car crashes could be prevented by autonomous vehicles. However, self-driving cars also have room for improvement. Transportation Research Procedia study results show that errors leading to autonomous vehicle accidents were mainly unsafe speeds at 43.5 percent and following too closely at 26.1 percent.”. So can we presume autonomous vehicles are safer?
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