Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

EXCEPT for the numerous instances of self-driving cars running into emergency vehicles, road barriers, construction zones, police and fire vehicles or barricades.

Yeah, right, And there is a claim these self-drivers are somehow “safer”? This appears to be a completely Bovine Excrement (BS) claim!
An analysis of accidents per 1,000,000 of self-driving vehicles versus accidents per 1,000,000 driver-controlled vehicles or a similar analysis of accidents per 1,000,000 miles of self-driving versus human-driven vehicles would likely reveal more relevant data than mere conjecture.


This analysis has been done! And reveals:

The National Law Review reported that for every 1 million miles driven, there are 9.1 self-driving car crashes.
In comparison, conventional human-driven vehicles have a crash rate of 4.1 per million miles driven.

A study published by the peer-reviewed journal Transportation Research Procedia found that accidents involving autonomous vehicles were mostly rear-end collisions, while conventional vehicles were involved in more pedestrian and broadside accidents.

The statistics for autonomous vehicle crashes broke down as follows:

Rear-end accidents – 64.2%
Side-swipe accidents – 20.8%
Broadside accidents – 5.7%
Collisions with an object – 3.8%
Pedestrian accidents – 0%
“Other” accidents – 5.7%


In comparison, conventional vehicle crashes broke down as follows:

Rear-end accidents – 28.3%
Side-swipe accidents – 17.5%
Broadside accidents – 25.8%
Collisions with an object – 4.6%
Pedestrian accidents – 16.3%
“Other” accidents – 7.5%

https://www.nstlaw.com/autonomous-vehicle-statistics/
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According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), self-driving cars resulted in at least 11 deaths in a four month period in 2022 across the US. Approximately 9.1 driverless car crashes occur per million miles driven. Sep 12, 2023
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Ollieboy

All 2 of them.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

Self driving cars are better off amongst self driving cars...As long as conventional cars are in play I don't consider self driving cars a safer option...

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

The problem is the human variable.
Humans are SO variable.

agillot

Here in TX , side roads that cross an 75 mph freeway like road , too cheap to make overpass . Scary at time Ronald Reagan from 35 to cedar park is one of many like that .

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

In our newish roundabout, there are two lanes, and drivers in the left lane are allowed to exit to the right. That has them crossing in front of the drivers in the right lane. What a stupid idea!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

It IS!

Even if not allowed, people will still do it.

I hate two lane circles for that reason.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

The circle is so small that 18-wheelers have to use both lanes.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

I live in Palm Springs, CA. Here I would (in a undocumented way) guesstimate that from 50% to 80% of driver do NOT use their turn signals. When I am behind these people . . . I need to guess what they are going to do. Good luck.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Yea, your area is not the only place where that occurs.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

In NY, 100' before turning is the law.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Of which 90% of the people are either unaware or don't care.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

What gets me is those people who start their signal as they start their turn. Unclear on the concept.

Ruthlessrider

I would instinctively say more people need to get tickets for being on their phones while driving, but too often I see police officers on their phones or looking at the computer perched on a console. Someone should build signal blockers into the cockpit of cars.

With adaptive cruise control it is easy to find people who are suddenly on the phone. There are many times I am following a car using ACC on the Interstate, following at two or three car lengths, and all of a sudden the car slows precipitously, yup the guys on the phone. If I continue to follow (which I’ve done out of curiosity), all of a sudden the car speeds up (the guy just hung up). If people would just learn to use the technology available in almost all newer cars, perhaps there would fewer accidents.

People involved in accidents should have to automatically surrender their phones and if there is evidence that shows they were on the phone when the accident occurs, they should automatically be ticketed for causing the accident. I may be an old curmudgeon on this issue, but it is just too easy to hit the red button on the phone or console or pull safely over to take the call if it is that important.

End of rant!