Levi's Stadium
Jan 27, 2024 12:22:33 #
Having read all the posts in this string so far, I have to chuckle. What you’re all mad about is called “capitalism.” And you all live in a capitalistic society.
Guess that means none of you will watch sports on TV of any kind because the players are paid a Godzillian dollars, or buy clothes from Costco because they’re made in sweatshops in Asia, or buy a lot of fruit at local farmers markets and small local fruit stands because some of it is produced in Mexico and South America, and we all know those countries have perfect sanitary conditions and pay their workers top dollar.
Give me a break. Most people just look the other way when it benefits them, and you know it.
Guess that means none of you will watch sports on TV of any kind because the players are paid a Godzillian dollars, or buy clothes from Costco because they’re made in sweatshops in Asia, or buy a lot of fruit at local farmers markets and small local fruit stands because some of it is produced in Mexico and South America, and we all know those countries have perfect sanitary conditions and pay their workers top dollar.
Give me a break. Most people just look the other way when it benefits them, and you know it.
Jan 27, 2024 12:24:41 #
jerryc41 wrote:
"If the customers pay for it why not?" That's why not.
The customers shouldn't pay for it and shop else where. Perhaps better off order from Temu to get the real Chinese stuff than paying for the Levi and they make them in China any way.
Jan 27, 2024 12:28:57 #
Companies advertise because it works. There are a lot of ways to track the effectiveness of advertising.
Jan 27, 2024 12:46:45 #
therwol
Loc: USA
M1911 wrote:
Are Levi jeans still made in america?
No. They closed their San Francisco plant in 2002 and their San Antonio plant in 2003. I remember when it happened in San Francisco, and it was a sad day when it was announced.
Jan 27, 2024 13:03:32 #
therwol
Loc: USA
BebuLamar wrote:
The customers shouldn't pay for it and shop else where. Perhaps better off order from Temu to get the real Chinese stuff than paying for the Levi and they make them in China any way.
The problem is that with almost everything, companies have outsourced to many other countries, China, Thailand, Honduras, Mexico, India and others. This even applies to expensive designer apparel. What are you going to do, wear tree bark? The system favors profits, and consumers will mostly buy on price rather than patriotic inclinations. If this practice were to stop, would Walmart still be in business?
Other countries with a high standard of living such as Japan and South Korea are getting on this bandwagon. (Recall the discussion about Nikon and Sony cameras being made in Thailand.). 90% of Samsung's phones are made in Vietnam.
Jan 27, 2024 13:33:47 #
Fredrick wrote:
Exactly right. And ref a later comment about Walmart, remember when they had "Made in America" banners in the ceilings above certain products? Having read all the posts in this string so far, I... (show quote)
The greed is with consumers, not businesses.
Jan 27, 2024 13:40:55 #
RKastner
Loc: Davenport, FL
BebuLamar wrote:
They have to outsource in order to save money to pay for renaming the stadium. Having the stadium in their name sells more jeans than making the jeans in America because the consumers don't care where their jeans are made.
Well....indirectly they do. True, they don't really care where they are made, but they care with their wallets and price decisions. Consumers don't want to pay for the jeans....or anything for that matter...for what it would cost to make anything in the US. Companies offshore manufacturing to keep the prices at a level that people will buy their items and maximize profit at that price. This is not a criticism of US labor costs other than costs of living and costs of labor in SE Asia and China are so low that US manufacturing struggles to compete for a lot of items.
Jan 27, 2024 13:55:46 #
RKastner wrote:
Well....indirectly they do. True, they don't real... (show quote)
Consumers are willing to pay for the jean that has its name on the big stadium than if the jean is made in the USA. It's all about the consumers.
Jan 27, 2024 15:01:29 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Linda From Maine wrote:
Exactly right. And ref a later comment about Walmart, remember when they had "Made in America" banners in the ceilings above certain products?
I avoid Walmart when possible, even though there is one about 2 miles from my house. No I don't remember. What products? Frosted Flakes?
Jan 27, 2024 15:43:17 #
therwol wrote:
HA. I believe clothing. From 2014:I avoid Walmart when possible, even though there is one about 2 miles from my house. No I don't remember. What products? Frosted Flakes?
https://shenglufashion.com/2014/04/27/is-wal-marts-250-billion-made-in-the-usa-program-another-crafted-with-pride-campaign/
(I didn't read it)
Here's a 2023 update: a depressing article I skimmed for five seconds:
https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/press-release/fact-sheet-walmarts-made-in-america-pledge/
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Jan 27, 2024 18:33:02 #
jerryc41 wrote:
They can do lots of things, but profit (greed) is the reason for most business decisions.
They can do lots of things, but profit (greed) is the reason for most business decisions.
profit is not greed. Every business needs to make a profit to stay in business.
Greed is making excessive profit just because you can.
Jan 27, 2024 19:03:13 #
Marketing 101 - repetition, repetition, repetition. If you watch television, or use the Internet, you will be barraged by the same advertisements over and over. Yes, the repetition does increase your awareness of the brand. Naming a stadium does pretty much the same thing when it is mentioned over and over and over again in the broadcast of the event taking place there.
Jan 27, 2024 23:43:17 #
campyboy1
Loc: vancouver Washington
Nope I have bought 501 Levi's jeans that been made in Mexico, Dominion Republic, and Honduras.
Jan 28, 2024 07:37:42 #
Chiroman8 wrote:
Jerry,
You are too funny !
You are too funny !
Sorry, I'll try to tone it down a bit.
Jan 28, 2024 11:31:15 #
Fredrick wrote:
Having read all the posts in this string so far, I... (show quote)
Fred you are absolutely correct! It's unlikely any company would spend that kind of money without doing due diligence. They know what it is worth and we support their effort by giving them money (sales). Capitalism is great. WE have a choice!
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