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Jan 26, 2024 10:40:55   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
User ID wrote:
Theres a 200-500 for $575 on UHH right now.


Yep! And it's a really good lens IMHO! I'm glad they don't, but Nikon should charge twice what they do for the lens, based on performance!

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Jan 26, 2024 10:44:37   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
therwol wrote:
There are three things that come to mind that might make the Z8/Z9 produce sharper pictures than the D850.

1. IBIS
2. Better autofocus, though the autofocus of the D850 is outstanding. It just doesn't match what the Z8/9 can do.
3. Better lenses. Most of the Z lenses test better than their F mount counterparts, though not all, and some third party lenses match the Z lenses pretty well.


This could all be true. But I have spent all the Nikon dollars that I'm likely to spend for the next several years! And by then, I will likely be dead!

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Jan 26, 2024 11:08:51   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
therwol wrote:
There are three things that come to mind that might make the Z8/Z9 produce sharper pictures than the D850.

1. IBIS
2. Better autofocus, though the autofocus of the D850 is outstanding. It just doesn't match what the Z8/9 can do.
3. Better lenses. Most of the Z lenses test better than their F mount counterparts, though not all, and some third party lenses match the Z lenses pretty well.


Here we go again. It's not the camera, IT'S THE LENS. All the things you list above make it easier not better. But you left out the most important thing with mirrorless cameras, frame rate. At 30+ frames per second it is almost impossible not to get a good shot now and then.

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Jan 26, 2024 11:35:55   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
I wish folks were as concerned about composition and impact as they are about sharpness.

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Jan 26, 2024 11:46:57   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
There was a huge difference in sharpness between my Tamron 150-600 and the Sony 200-600 I bought after they came out. DSLR or mirror less makes no difference in sharpness, but lens maker, zoom or prime both make a difference in sharpness.

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Jan 26, 2024 12:12:03   #
MJPerini
 
zacksoccer wrote:
By comparison, here is one of mine...with D500/Sigma 150-600/ 1/4000, f10, ISO 1250...


In this nice image you are fighting what appears to be under exposure, unfavorable light angle, and shooting at f/10 on a crop sensor (which will probably not be your sharpest f/stop.
I realize you took what you could get under the circumstances.

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Jan 26, 2024 12:12:08   #
srt101fan
 
Bushpilot wrote:
I wish folks were as concerned about composition and impact as they are about sharpness.



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Jan 26, 2024 12:13:26   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Here we go again. It's not the camera, IT'S THE LENS. All the things you list above make it easier not better. But you left out the most important thing with mirrorless cameras, frame rate. At 30+ frames per second it is almost impossible not to get a good shot now and then.



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Jan 26, 2024 12:38:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
imagemeister wrote:
No .....there is a reason why the Z9+600 f4 =$15K or there-a-bouts !

You can get fairly close tho if you are experienced and knowledgeable ..... Is the Z9 and 600 f4 $14K better ??


Sonewhat noisy, the sky is over saturated and white balance way off.

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Jan 26, 2024 12:49:25   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
zacksoccer wrote:
By comparison, here is one of mine...with D500/Sigma 150-600/ 1/4000, f10, ISO 1250...


Tough light and the noise really affects the detail. The problem with EC here is there’s not a lot of headroom to push the exposure without blowing the highlights, but you might be able to go 1/2 stop. You might look at your other settings. For a larger bird like an eagle you could slow the shutter speed to 1/2500, maybe even 1/2000 and why f/10? For a subject 100’ away you lose less than 6” in DOF by shooting at f/8. I would be at f/6.3.

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Jan 26, 2024 12:54:54   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
zacksoccer wrote:
This image is from Scott Wells...He uses a Nikon z9 with a 600mm lens...I have a Nikon D850, D500, and am using a Sigma 150-600 lens...is it every possible to get this level of sharpness without a mirrorless camera and a prime lens? These images are amazing...


How's this? D850,500pF.


(Download)

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Jan 26, 2024 12:56:06   #
zacksoccer
 
Outstanding...

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Jan 26, 2024 13:00:20   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
zacksoccer wrote:
Outstanding...


Note the bright light of all the examples saying 'of course' it can be done. Hopefully, you're considering the feedback and planning the changes to implement into your approach, not lusting after new gear that will matter little if you don't make the necessary changes to your shooting technique and subject selection.

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Jan 26, 2024 13:02:50   #
zacksoccer
 
Subject selection is always the basis of any shooting decision...I agree that the technique can use a lot more upgrade...we are both in Chicago-area...do you teach or have seminars that you would recommend? Thanks...

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Jan 26, 2024 13:03:38   #
zacksoccer
 
Is this a 5.6 500 Prime? Have looked at this lens...

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