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Jan 15, 2024 10:25:00   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:


That's 2 votes for my suggestion!!

Thanks, Bill!
Mark

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Jan 15, 2024 10:49:31   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
That seems more of a scam to extract $ for the city.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:18:19   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary school that is not in a "School Zone," with a lower speed limit. They're working to change that. Below is what I found odd. I made one section bold.

The school a few miles from me has a lit-up sign during school hours, and a printed sign that says when the speed limit drops and goes back up. I'd hate to be given a $300 ticket for not slowing down on weekends. Maybe that's a loophole the police can use. (also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends)

[/]Under state Vehicle and Traffic Law, when school is in session, fines are up to $300 for driving up to 10 mph over the limit with three points put on a driver’s license, and up to $600 and four points for speeds 11 to 20 mph over the limit. The fine can also be up to $600 with six points put on a driver’s license for up to 30 mph, and up to $1,200 and eight points for 31 to 40 mph or more over the limit. Eleven points can be put on a driver’s license for speeds of 41 mph or more over the limit. Jail sentences are also possible.

The law states that school days extend from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., with penalties also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends. Those fines can be up to $150 for up to 10 mph over the limit, up to $300 for up to 30 mph over the limit, and up to $600 for 31 mph or more over the limit. The points added to a license would be the same as if school was in session.

Courts can also charge a surcharge of $88 in towns and villages, and $93 in cities.[/i]
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary s... (show quote)


The school signs in our area have blinking lights when the speed limit is reduced. When the lights are off, the speed is the normal posted speed.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:20:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bridges wrote:
The school signs in our area have blinking lights when the speed limit is reduced. When the lights are off, the speed is the normal posted speed.

Most will agree, that's the way it "normally" works...

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Jan 15, 2024 12:13:52   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Ouch! I think here the limits are in effect when the light on the sign is flashing.

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Jan 15, 2024 12:33:48   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
That seems more of a scam to extract $ for the city.


Until a kid is killed. Your life will never be the same if that happens. Nor will the parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, are all affected. Jeez, how hard is it to just slow down for a couple blocks.

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Jan 15, 2024 13:14:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
clint f. wrote:
Until a kid is killed. Your life will never be the same if that happens. Nor will the parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters, are all affected. Jeez, how hard is it to just slow down for a couple blocks.

He MAY be referring to the "off school hours" ticketing.... just maybe.
At least that's my interpretation.

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Jan 15, 2024 14:29:13   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
That's nothing..! My neighbor handed me a piece of paper telling me that I owed him $50. It stated that I was driving 10 MPH over the speed limit on the road to our house claiming that they were "Home Schooling" their child and that they consider their home to be a "School Zone".😁

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Jan 15, 2024 14:45:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
That's nothing..! My neighbor handed me a piece of paper telling me that I owed him $50. It stated that I was driving 10 MPH over the speed limit on the road to our house claiming that they were "Home Schooling" their child and that they consider their home to be a "School Zone".😁



Hate to see what they're teaching their kids....

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Jan 15, 2024 18:16:10   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
markngolf wrote:
Seems to me that it might be easier to simply drive slowly and within the posted speed limits and hours posted, than spend all this time on UHH looking for a resolve. My mind usually searches for simple solutions. Sorry if I've offended any UHHers!
Mark


👍👍👍

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Jan 15, 2024 20:52:39   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary school that is not in a "School Zone," with a lower speed limit. They're working to change that. Below is what I found odd. I made one section bold.

The school a few miles from me has a lit-up sign during school hours, and a printed sign that says when the speed limit drops and goes back up. I'd hate to be given a $300 ticket for not slowing down on weekends. Maybe that's a loophole the police can use. (also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends)

[/]Under state Vehicle and Traffic Law, when school is in session, fines are up to $300 for driving up to 10 mph over the limit with three points put on a driver’s license, and up to $600 and four points for speeds 11 to 20 mph over the limit. The fine can also be up to $600 with six points put on a driver’s license for up to 30 mph, and up to $1,200 and eight points for 31 to 40 mph or more over the limit. Eleven points can be put on a driver’s license for speeds of 41 mph or more over the limit. Jail sentences are also possible.

The law states that school days extend from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., with penalties also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends. Those fines can be up to $150 for up to 10 mph over the limit, up to $300 for up to 30 mph over the limit, and up to $600 for 31 mph or more over the limit. The points added to a license would be the same as if school was in session.

Courts can also charge a surcharge of $88 in towns and villages, and $93 in cities.[/i]
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary s... (show quote)


Rather simple answer: obey the posted speed limit!

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Jan 15, 2024 20:57:56   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Longshadow wrote:
Talk about non-definitive.....
What happened to "school hours".
Our 15MPH "flashing signals" operate during ingress and egress times for the school, typically not during the entire time it is in session during the day. NEVER saw one flash at any other time.


Our close-to-home 15 MPH flashing yellow light is on a timer. It works just before, during and somewhat after school hours, and is adjusted for non-operation on weekends and during summer recess.

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Jan 15, 2024 21:00:21   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Longshadow wrote:


Hate to see what they're teaching their kids....
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


Hmmmm. Obviously a LIBERAL education . . . .

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Jan 16, 2024 08:50:48   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I just wish cars would stop for our school busses when our stop arm is out. They do it both on the streets and on school property. IF we can get the license plate number and fill out a report, the PD MIGHT give them a ticket. I know some bus companies have stop arm cameras, but not ours. Occasionally when we get a replacement used bus (we almost NEVER get a new one!) I will see where a camera had been removed prior to our getting it. I found this article on the AARP website. https://www.aarpdriversafety.org/schoolbusfines.html

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Jan 16, 2024 10:34:59   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary school that is not in a "School Zone," with a lower speed limit. They're working to change that. Below is what I found odd. I made one section bold.

The school a few miles from me has a lit-up sign during school hours, and a printed sign that says when the speed limit drops and goes back up. I'd hate to be given a $300 ticket for not slowing down on weekends. Maybe that's a loophole the police can use. (also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends)

[/]Under state Vehicle and Traffic Law, when school is in session, fines are up to $300 for driving up to 10 mph over the limit with three points put on a driver’s license, and up to $600 and four points for speeds 11 to 20 mph over the limit. The fine can also be up to $600 with six points put on a driver’s license for up to 30 mph, and up to $1,200 and eight points for 31 to 40 mph or more over the limit. Eleven points can be put on a driver’s license for speeds of 41 mph or more over the limit. Jail sentences are also possible.

The law states that school days extend from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., with penalties also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends. Those fines can be up to $150 for up to 10 mph over the limit, up to $300 for up to 30 mph over the limit, and up to $600 for 31 mph or more over the limit. The points added to a license would be the same as if school was in session.

Courts can also charge a surcharge of $88 in towns and villages, and $93 in cities.[/i]
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary s... (show quote)


In California it states on the sign "25 When Children Are Present". In some locations it may be 20mph, or as low as 15mph. But then general law is with in 500 feet of a school with children present 25 mph, posted or not posted.

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