This is an odd one. There is a local elementary school that is not in a "School Zone," with a lower speed limit. They're working to change that. Below is what I found odd. I made one section bold.
The school a few miles from me has a lit-up sign during school hours, and a printed sign that says when the speed limit drops and goes back up. I'd hate to be given a $300 ticket for not slowing down on weekends. Maybe that's a loophole the police can use. (also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends)
[/]Under state Vehicle and Traffic Law, when school is in session, fines are up to $300 for driving up to 10 mph over the limit with three points put on a driver’s license, and up to $600 and four points for speeds 11 to 20 mph over the limit. The fine can also be up to $600 with six points put on a driver’s license for up to 30 mph, and up to $1,200 and eight points for 31 to 40 mph or more over the limit. Eleven points can be put on a driver’s license for speeds of 41 mph or more over the limit. Jail sentences are also possible.
The law states that school days extend from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., with penalties also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends. Those fines can be up to $150 for up to 10 mph over the limit, up to $300 for up to 30 mph over the limit, and up to $600 for 31 mph or more over the limit. The points added to a license would be the same as if school was in session.
Courts can also charge a surcharge of $88 in towns and villages, and $93 in cities.[/i]
The after hours thing stinks, unless there is some kind of event.
In our city in Northern Ontario Canada the posted speed limit on all school zones is 40 km/hr (approx 24 mph). This speed limit is in effect 24 hrs per day, 365 days of the year (that means all the time!!) They go on the theory that the younger folk not only are there for schooling but also other activities like sports etc outside of regular school time. Thus this is true even when school is out during the summer or Christmas breaks. Not sure what the fines are up here and also not sure if the local constabulary strictly enforces these limits especially during the breaks but I ain’t gonna try and find out personally while behind my steering wheel 😜😜
LittleRed (Ron)
alberio wrote:
The after hours thing stinks, unless there is some kind of event.
I figured I was safe if the sign showed hours of 7:00 - 4:00 on weekdays.
jerryc41 wrote:
I figured I was safe if the sign showed hours of 7:00 - 4:00 on weekdays.
Or if the electric 15MPH signs are not blinking??????
LittleRed wrote:
In our city in Northern Ontario Canada the posted speed limit on all school zones is 40 km/hr (approx 24 mph). This speed limit is in effect 24 hrs per day, 365 days of the year (that means all the time!!) They go on the theory that the younger folk not only are there for schooling but also other activities like sports etc outside of regular school time. Thus this is true even when school is out during the summer or Christmas breaks. Not sure what the fines are up here and also not sure if the local constabulary strictly enforces these limits especially during the breaks but I ain’t gonna try and find out personally while behind my steering wheel 😜😜
LittleRed (Ron)
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Unfortunately I can confirm they are enforced during the summer break.😡
Weekends, football, soccer etc. Holidays, Halloween but non others that I can think of.
alberio wrote:
Weekends, football, soccer etc. Holidays, Halloween but non others that I can think of.
Talk about non-definitive.....
What happened to "school hours".
Our 15MPH "flashing signals" operate during ingress and egress times for the school, typically not during the entire time it is in session during the day. NEVER saw one flash at any other time.
Longshadow wrote:
Talk about non-definitive.....
What happened to "school hours".
Our 15MPH "flashing signals" operate during ingress and egress times for the school, typically not during the entire time it is in session during the day. NEVER saw one flash at any other time.
You're using too much common sense. I believe Arizona uses the same ideas and even post a crossing guard when possible. I haven't noticed if they put signs out for after school hour events, but still watch my speed through those areas.
alberio wrote:
You're using too much common sense. I believe Arizona uses the same ideas and even post a crossing guard when possible. I haven't noticed if they put signs out for after school hour events, but still watch my speed through those areas.
I know, common sense left the building years ago.......
Great, every state is different?
jerryc41 wrote:
This is an odd one. There is a local elementary school that is not in a "School Zone," with a lower speed limit. They're working to change that. Below is what I found odd. I made one section bold.
The school a few miles from me has a lit-up sign during school hours, and a printed sign that says when the speed limit drops and goes back up. I'd hate to be given a $300 ticket for not slowing down on weekends. Maybe that's a loophole the police can use. (also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends)
[/]Under state Vehicle and Traffic Law, when school is in session, fines are up to $300 for driving up to 10 mph over the limit with three points put on a driver’s license, and up to $600 and four points for speeds 11 to 20 mph over the limit. The fine can also be up to $600 with six points put on a driver’s license for up to 30 mph, and up to $1,200 and eight points for 31 to 40 mph or more over the limit. Eleven points can be put on a driver’s license for speeds of 41 mph or more over the limit. Jail sentences are also possible.
The law states that school days extend from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., with penalties also possible for off-hour periods, holidays, and weekends. Those fines can be up to $150 for up to 10 mph over the limit, up to $300 for up to 30 mph over the limit, and up to $600 for 31 mph or more over the limit. The points added to a license would be the same as if school was in session.
Courts can also charge a surcharge of $88 in towns and villages, and $93 in cities.[/i]
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Seems to me that it might be easier to simply drive slowly and within the posted speed limits and hours posted, than spend all this time on UHH looking for a resolve. My mind usually searches for simple solutions. Sorry if I've offended any UHHers!
Mark
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