zarathu
Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
MrBob wrote:
But what you are overlooking is that a LOT of folks have NO need for a lot of what you refer to as NEW generation features. Lock an inferior 6D down on a stable tripod, attach a top shelf L lens , and for all intent and purposes you don’t need a lot of fancy features… Even my lowly 60D with L lens has IQ as good as the Nikon Shot across the pond as posted…
This is completely true. If I was a landscape photographer, then my 6d would be fine. But because I shoot small animals, fast moving hummingbirds and bugs where I need the superb auto eye focusing, and other macro where I need the specialized focusing abilities of the R camera.
But again, if I was shooting landscape or stationary portrait.... completely not need for an upgrade to any of the R’s. And just because I have an R5, doesn’t mean you can’t get most of the same stuff in any of the R cameras.
zarathu wrote:
This is completely true. If I was a landscape photographer, then my 6d would be fine. But because I shoot small animals, fast moving hummingbirds and bugs where I need the superb auto eye focusing, and other macro where I need the specialized focusing abilities of the R camera.
But again, if I was shooting landscape or stationary portrait.... completely not need for an upgrade to any of the R’s. And just because I have an R5, doesn’t mean you can’t get most of the same stuff in any of the R cameras.
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Why do you single out landscapes? I shoot a lot of landscapes. And I take advantage of a lot of my cameras' "advanced" features and capabilities when doing so. It makes the effort more fun, gives better results, and just makes life better. I also shoot other types of photography where camera capability makes a big difference...even if it is "just" shooting JPEGs in the classroom under fluorescent lights.
I agree that a large percentage of folks here are either unwilling or maybe just too lazy to learn what their cameras can do for them. For others, the camera is just a box with a hole on one side to capture a coloring book page to be completed later.
But for a few of us, the camera is truly a tool...a tool to be completely understood, to be an extension of ourselves, and a critical link in our effort to create something worth looking at. We read the manual and seek to understand it, even if it is difficult.
A favorite comment here is that a painter doesn't fret over his brushes. Nor brag about them. That is nothing but stupid, uninformed hogwash. They agonize over their brushes. Some of them are common brushes for common tasks. Others are very special, only used for very uncommon tasks, like painting individual hairs. And don't even get them started talking about their paints or their canvases.
So yes, it matters.
larryepage wrote:
Why do you single out landscapes? I shoot a lot of landscapes. And I take advantage of a lot of my cameras' "advanced" features and capabilities when doing so. It makes the effort more fun, gives better results, and just makes life better. I also shoot other types of photography where camera capability makes a big difference...even if it is "just" shooting JPEGs in the classroom under fluorescent lights.
I agree that a large percentage of folks here are either unwilling or maybe just too lazy to learn what their cameras can do for them. For others, the camera is just a box with a hole on one side to capture a coloring book page to be completed later.
But for a few of us, the camera is truly a tool...a tool to be completely understood, to be an extension of ourselves, and a critical link in our effort to create something worth looking at. We read the manual and seek to understand it, even if it is difficult.
A favorite comment here is that a painter doesn't fret over his brushes. Nor brag about them. That is nothing but stupid, uninformed hogwash. They agonize over their brushes. Some of them are common brushes for common tasks. Others are very special, only used for very uncommon tasks, like painting individual hairs. And don't even get them started talking about their paints or their canvases.
So yes, it matters.
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I think the distinction many are missing is equating the top end mirrorless cameras with mirrorless technology as a whole. Yes the frame rates and focus tracking of the top models are mostly beneficial to people shooting things like wildlife and sports, but in general the advantages of mirrorless technology can be beneficial to photography overall. There are definite advantages using mirrorless for landscapes.
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
larryepage wrote:
Why do you single out landscapes? I shoot a lot of landscapes. And I take advantage of a lot of my cameras' "advanced" features and capabilities when doing so. It makes the effort more fun, gives better results, and just makes life better. I also shoot other types of photography where camera capability makes a big difference...even if it is "just" shooting JPEGs in the classroom under fluorescent lights.
I agree that a large percentage of folks here are either unwilling or maybe just too lazy to learn what their cameras can do for them. For others, the camera is just a box with a hole on one side to capture a coloring book page to be completed later.
But for a few of us, the camera is truly a tool...a tool to be completely understood, to be an extension of ourselves, and a critical link in our effort to create something worth looking at. We read the manual and seek to understand it, even if it is difficult.
A favorite comment here is that a painter doesn't fret over his brushes. Nor brag about them. That is nothing but stupid, uninformed hogwash. They agonize over their brushes. Some of them are common brushes for common tasks. Others are very special, only used for very uncommon tasks, like painting individual hairs. And don't even get them started talking about their paints or their canvases.
So yes, it matters.
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I totally agree with you larry on the Painter being fastidious in his selection of tools just as we are with our photo gear... BUT, is a painting supposed to be analyzed 2" from the canvas to be appreciated... ? Paintings, the same as TV screens, have an appropriate viewing distance. We seem to have a lot of " viewers " who want to get to the pixel level for " appreciation " purposes.
MrBob wrote:
I totally agree with you larry on the Painter being fastidious in his selection of tools just as we are with our photo gear... BUT, is a painting supposed to be analyzed 2" from the canvas to be appreciated... ? Paintings, the same as TV screens, have an appropriate viewing distance. We seem to have a lot of " viewers " who want to get to the pixel level for " appreciation " purposes.
If you wanna produce imagery for viewers who inspect a 16x24" print from 4" away, then no hey problemo. Practice at how to milk the max from decent gear at every step in process. But its a waste of talent, time, and money.
Im not short of time, talent, or money but Im not obliged to cater to ultra-peepers. They are not a legit audience. They are essentially "line judges" in a game. If impressing such peepers is your game and your camera is your gaming console, enjoy ! But its really a game, not a commercial necessity nor an artform. Best to keep it all in perspective.
billnikon wrote:
Sony A1 is hands down the best action camera on the market today. And I am basically a Nikon guy. There is just nothing better.
Yeah if you can afford $6k
Crowtography wrote:
Yeah if you can afford $6k
I wish that Hawgster "wise advisors" would cease discouraging the wealthy-enuf among the great unwashed as pertains to wasting money on "too much camera". I buy lightly used cameras, generally a few years behind the curve.
The supply of such used cameras depends upon NEVER discouraging purchasing "too much camera for too much money". UHH is about photography. Other forums exist for those seeking "investment advice". Let the good times roll !
I know that Im very far from unique in my buying strategy, so lets encourage the high rollers to keep on rolling merrily along !
zarathu
Loc: Bar Harbor, MDI, Maine
I singled out landscape because the benefits of mirrorless are less obvious, than shooting hummingbirds, and macro.
I didn’t say that there was no benefit using mirrorless for landscape. People love to write what they believe people said so they can start an argument. I own an R5, remember.
A good photograph can be made better by just buying a mirrorless camera.
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
Blenheim Orange wrote:
The winning post!!
" I don't like Liver and onions ".... My post is the winner... !
jcboy3 wrote:
I don't like Canon.
Nobody cares what you "don't like". I don't like lima beans. No one cares about that either.
RodeoMan wrote:
Nobody cares what you "don't like". I don't like lima beans. No one cares about that either.
I think you just really dont understand lima beans, especially relative to the other beans available. Perhaps youre living in the past ?
MrBob wrote:
" I don't like Liver and onions ".... My post is the winner... !
It makes as much sense as some.
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