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Dec 26, 2023 17:29:04   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
burkphoto wrote:
IIRC, PC video cards do not share vram with the cpu cores…


Yes, cheap PCs do.

I've got a bunch of low end i3 laptops and thin clients that share RAM between the graphic card (a N320).

Higher end PCs don't do it because to avoid bottleneck of the PCIe bus. It is preferred to keep quad-channel GDDR RAM close the the graphic chip and connected via 128bit parallel interface - and - the cheaper dual channel DDR RAM on the motherboard.

To share RAM between CPU ang GPU has the only advantage of lowering the cost of the system at the expense of performance.

RAM is cheap nowadays... this is why only lower end systems have this feature.

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Dec 26, 2023 17:40:31   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
Thanks to UHH responders and doing exactly what you are doing now, last March I had built* the following:
Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z790-Creator WiFi
Memory: 64 - DDR5 6000
GPU: RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition
Processor: i9 13th Generation (13900k)
Hard Drives: (2) Stata SSD
Power Supply: 1350
Monitor: (2) BenQ SW270C

*had built - after asking several known computer companies to build it without success, I paid a "mom & pop" company in Dallas to assemble it. So glad I did. This computer is truly a dream capable of processing at speeds never experienced before. Round tripping tiffs out of LRC to Topaz and back under 3 seconds per image. If you love your BenQ add a second monitor, you will love it. Also, not a down side, but you need to watch the temperature on the unit. It is designed to run around 50c and averages 29c, it will shut down at 100c. Here is the key, it has 13 fans in its 62lb case. 7 of the fans are CD size. Additionally, it has liquid cooling. PM if you need more. Thanks to all the UHH people who helped me.
Thanks to UHH responders and doing exactly what yo... (show quote)


Cooling=reliability (and sometimes performance), but 13 fans?

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Dec 26, 2023 17:59:50   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
tcthome wrote:
What one did you end up getting?

I bought mine through NewEgg. The one I purchased (an ABS Gladiator) is no longer listed since it is now ancient a year later.
It was similar to: https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-odax13-05/p/N82E16883630021
I added an additional 2TB SSD and 16GB RAM off purchase.

I also highly recommend dual monitors for photo/video editing. You don't really know how great having two monitors are until you've tried this configuration.

bwa



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Dec 26, 2023 18:02:58   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
TriX wrote:
Cooling=reliability (and sometimes performance), but 13 fans?


First, I am like you - 13 fans? ...and we had an initial problem. The system would slow down the CPU fan as additional cooling to the i9 was not needed. The system software would detect this "sometimes" and go into a shutdown as cooling failure. Combining air and liquid cooling is something the system had to learn. The solution was a software bypass. The system will shut down at 100c but ignore changing fan as it relates to the CPU. As of this second, we are at 28c. The 7 CD size fans are noticeable (not noisy, but you know the system is running). This also is why the system weighs 62lbs and is not small by any means.

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Dec 26, 2023 18:59:41   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
bwana wrote:
I bought mine through NewEgg. The one I purchased (an ABS Gladiator) is no longer listed since it is now ancient a year later.
It was similar to: https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-odax13-05/p/N82E16883630021
I added an additional 2TB SSD and 16GB RAM off purchase.

I also highly recommend dual monitors for photo/video editing. You don't really know how great having two monitors are until you've tried this configuration.

bwa


Thanks. I have delt with New Egg before. They are great for replacement/upgrading/adding also like adding another drive or ram.

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Dec 26, 2023 22:12:52   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
Just for the heck of it you might want to take a peak at https://www.pugetsystems.com/. They build to order custom purpose built workstations that include designs for photography. This may prove to be a useful reference.

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Dec 26, 2023 22:47:29   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
TriX wrote:
Cooling=reliability (and sometimes performance), but 13 fans?


Maybe it doubles as an AC for your office?

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Dec 26, 2023 23:11:51   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
OP, buy a good name brand desktop PC, then buy as much RAM, Processor, and storage as you can afford. All will keep you in better shape in the long term.

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Dec 26, 2023 23:33:13   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Laramie wrote:
OP, buy a good name brand desktop PC, then buy as much RAM, Processor, and storage as you can afford. All will keep you in better shape in the long term.


And don’t forget a good GPU/Graphics card - critical for image processing with new PP SW

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Dec 27, 2023 04:49:57   #
BebuLamar
 
robertjerl wrote:
Maybe it doubles as an AC for your office?


better as a furnace as all the air that it blows out is hot.

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Dec 27, 2023 06:30:18   #
iamimdoc
 
Will this deal with 2 monitors ?

If so, up to what resolution of the monitors would it deal with?

Thanks

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Dec 27, 2023 10:21:59   #
Photomono
 
burkphoto wrote:
Mac mini with M2 Pro, 32GB unified memory, at least 1TB internal storage... It's extremely quick and hard to choke. Add external Thunderbolt 4/USB4 drives with Thunderbolt 4 cables, and you can edit and export almost anything with no hesitation.

On a Mac like that, ALL the memory is shared among ALL the processor cores, and the system allocates it dynamically as needed. You won't run out of video memory.


I absolutely agree, but…

The Mac Studio prices out almost identically and has many more ports (both front & rear) — including Thunderbolt and an SD card reader. My M2 Studio has 32GB memory and 2TB internal storage. It will run whatever is thrown at it.

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Dec 27, 2023 10:28:26   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
better as a furnace as all the air that it blows out is hot.


At some point, adding additional fans just generates useless heat from the excess Wattage.

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Dec 27, 2023 10:29:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
iamimdoc wrote:
Will this deal with 2 monitors ?

If so, up to what resolution of the monitors would it deal with?

Thanks


Please go back to the post you are questioning and use the Quote Reply button instead of Reply.

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Dec 27, 2023 12:13:57   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
iamimdoc wrote:
Will this deal with 2 monitors ?

If so, up to what resolution of the monitors would it deal with?

Thanks


Burk in correct below about you need the quote, but high end GPUs typically support up to 4 monitors. Key is they both need to be on the GPU and not the motherboard (which you will find is still available).

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