Informal poll: What 61MP body do you use ? (Page 20): Damned if you know and damned if you dont. Youre the big time winner either way. Winner or whiner, first prize gold medalist.

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Retired CPO wrote:

I've seen these before. Again, Damned if I know why!?

Damned if you know and damned if you dont. Youre the big time winner either way. Winner or whiner, first prize gold medalist.

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Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Bill_de wrote:

Quoting KTJohnson

"It works. It's paid for. I know how to use it."

Probably, for many of us, the most important statement in this thread to date.

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That's exactly why I still use Quicken 2007...

(And my T1i and H-1.)

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Longshadow wrote:

That's exactly why I still use Quicken 2007...
(And my T1i and H-1.)

My wife, who is Treasurer of a local churches-sponsored school, is still trying to figure out how to use the software optimally. She has promised she’ll leave when her term ends next summer.

Mwilliamsphotography Loc: Royal Oak Michigan & Palm Harbor Florida

Looks like it.

cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania

Ysarex wrote:

Depending on what you want to do 18mp is plenty. I... (show quote)

I mostly agree with you, but in some cases high megapixels could be useful, such as a landscape with intricate details.
Consider a shot of mountains in the distance with a herd of bighorn sheep enlarged to say 24"x36" after viewing at the appropriate distance, you could walk up close to view the sheep, or maybe some other detail you are curious about.
By the way, I don't have a 61MP camera, mine are only 24, enough for what I usually need.

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Mwilliamsphotography wrote:

Looks like it.

Whos looking at what ?

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cmc4214 wrote:

I mostly agree with you, but in some cases high megapixels could be useful, such as a landscape with intricate details.
Consider a shot of mountains in the distance with a herd of bighorn sheep enlarged to say 24"x36" after viewing at the appropriate distance, you could walk up close to view the sheep, or maybe some other detail you are curious about.
By the way, I don't have a 61MP camera, mine are only 24, enough for what I usually need.

OK. As youve suggested, I have considered the shot that youve described of sheep on a distant mountain and using a 61MP camera.

Cant believe anything with that much air in the way could possibly benefit from a 61MP sensor. But as you admit, youre not a user and so not familiar with what extra pixel rez will and will not provide. Post your pix of sheep from ten miles away recorded by your 24MP camera. The detail missing from those pix would never have shown up at 61MP either.

A 1000mm FL would produce an image size that appears to be under a half mile distant, but your fine detail has still suffered from a full ten miles of surface atmosphere :-(

For a very far distant view such as you have described, the details you mention are pure fantasy. A high MP sensor could be useful if the desired framing would demand doubling the available FL. Then your cropping would still leave you with about 15MP.

cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania

User ID wrote:

OK. As youve suggested, I have considered the shot... (show quote)

I am not a user of a 61MP camera, but I have seen pictures from them.
In the distance does not have to mean ten miles, I don't know where you came up with that number

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cmc4214 wrote:

I am not a user of a 61MP camera, but I have seen pictures from them.
In the distance does not have to mean ten miles, I don't know where you came up with that number

So sorry for the oversight. One should never mention any numbers on UHH. Hogsters are notoriously math clueless. So I will explain it here verrrrry sloooowly:

Your words "mountains in the distance" plus simple geography plus common sense equals about ten miles. Ten miles is somewhat short of the horizon. Again, sorry about mentioning a number around here :-(

Or, maybe you meant a miniature mountain just across the meadow with miniature sheep and all. Verrrrry cute. Hadnt considered that.

Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown

very sound reasoning, I agree

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Dalek wrote:

very sound reasoning, I agree

With what?

Using Quote Reply works wonders.....

gwilliams6

From raw files, even with reduced file size to fit UHH restrictions, and with UHH compression here, you should still be able to see the fine detail, even of buttes, mountains and waterfalls that are miles away. A 61mp sensor with excellent resolving glass can produce wonderful ultimate resolution and detail.

1) A shot from 61mp Sony A7RIV, and Sony 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 lens. Famed Monument Valley, scene of countless Movies, TV shows, Commercials, Navajo Lands , Arizona/Utah border, USA. 207mm, ISO 100, f6.3, 1/500 sec. handheld. Some of the Buttes here are 1000 feet high.

2) Yosemite Valley, Yosemite National Park, California, USA. 61mp Sony A7RIV, Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN lens, 24mm , ISO 100, f4, 1/500 sec. handheld. (left to right), left, El Capitan, in center-rear Half Dome with a small rising moon, right Bridal Veil falls.

3-4) Environmental Scientist Brooke Hildebrand at sunset in the Valley of Fire, Nevada, USA. First the full frame, then a tight crop from the same 61mp shot. Amazing detail retained even in a huge crop. Sony A7RIV, Sony 135mm f1.8 GM lens, 135mm, ISO 400, f3.5, 1/640 sec. handheld.

Don't knock it if you haven't used it.

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Cheers and best to you all .

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Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

gwilliams6 wrote:

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Don't knock it if you haven't used it.

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Not knocking it,
just don't need it.

gwilliams6

Longshadow wrote:

Not knocking it,
just don't need it.

Nothing wrong if you dont need it, that is fine. Many folks dont need it.

It is great to have it, if you want what it can give you. I love what it can give me and my clients.

But I am also likely to get the 24mp Sony A9III with global shutter for all the special things it can do that my 61mp A7RV can not do.

Cheers and best to you.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

gwilliams6 wrote:

Nothing wrong if you dont need it, that is fine. Many folks dont need it.

It is great to have it, if you want what it can give you. I love what it can give me and my clients.

But I am also likely to get the 24mp Sony A9III with global shutter for all the special things it can do that my 61mp A7RV can not do.

Cheers and best to you.

Well, gwilliams6, we agree on something. There might be such a thing as too many pixels, but I haven't seen it yet! My paltry 46 Meg D850 can't hold a candle to these photos, I hate to admit. I don't know if I'm ready to go medium format digital yet, but I sure would like to! Bring on the Mega pixels!!!