New year hopes : What should the camera makers be working on for 2024 ??
Dec 24, 2023 13:04:40 #
rehess wrote:
Ricoh/Pentax did sell the “K-01” - a K-mount MILC - at one time, but apparently they decided that people expect a MILC to have lenses with a shorter flange distance, which would have diminished the value of their K-mount lenses and forced them to develop a whole new set of lenses, so they have taken a different route.
Yes, I was aware of the K-01 since its release, but being APS-C, only 16MP, and worse yet having no OVF or EVF it was of little advancement to me. Only really cool thing was it could use in some fashion as has always with K-mounts used existing lenses. But I would be willing to use an adapter if Pentax had a up to date MILC with wider and deeper mount and flange. But they are going with a B&W K-3 III and possibly film cameras. Snore. I still have all the film cameras I need. And can not justify a used rolleiflex 6x6cm TLR, or other film medium format.
Dec 24, 2023 14:05:28 #
lamiaceae wrote:
Yes, I was aware of the K-01 since its release, bu... (show quote)
When I switched back to Pentax {from Canon} in 2015, I was surprised to discover that they still supported ‘screw-drive’ auto focus. I purchased two Sigma lenses about that time - a 10-20mm and a 70-300mm - both of them being screw-drive AF, rather than a “KAF3” version that depends on an lens-AF motor, even though the Canon EF-mount version of their 10-20mm lens powered AF by an in-lens motor. I believe Sigma had reverse-engineered the mount, and it had’t been worth-while to rush reverse-engineering the “KAF3” mount. Since then, Pentax has developed a “KAF4” mount - which like Canon’s EF- mount, has motors in the lens for both AF and aperture. In recent years, I don’t believe any company {besides Pentax} has sold a lens for K-mount which auto focuses. I believe if they had released a MILC mount, it would have had been a version of the “KAF4” mount, and Pentax would have been the only company to supply lenses for it. Yes, they could have supplied an adapter for it, but like Nikon, it would have focused with only lenses that had in-lens AF ….. which would have been a real mess. Which is to say, they made the right move of not releasing a MILC with a reduced flange-distance.
Dec 24, 2023 14:18:19 #
tomad wrote:
I like your idea but change the lens to a 12-400mm (24-800 equiv)...
You will not like the SIZE or price
Dec 24, 2023 14:23:00 #
lreisner wrote:
Sadly, my guess is that wishing for a new Sony Rx10 is a long shot in coming true. It is not in the company's interest to create a camera that needs few accessories, think lenses. Would I buy an updated one, yes in a heart beat. Beyond that, I do not need anything else to be created that would give me GAS! 🙂
Happy New Year to all!
Happy New Year to all!
Yes, this is why no one is talking about it - it would negate the need for many, many lenses - and, as of yet - no one wants to promote THAT !
Dec 24, 2023 14:23:17 #
imagemeister wrote:
Many u-tubers have been posing this theme lately .... (show quote)
I would really like to see a camera manufacturer collaborate with a smartphone manufacturer. Use the capture capability of the camera and the processing/networking power of the phone, integrated together. Smartphone cameras are great, but they do have their limitations. The REAL power of the smartphone is in the microprocessor, software, and the communications technologies.
Dec 24, 2023 14:44:05 #
burkphoto wrote:
Panasonic Leica already makes the following lenses... (show quote)
My point is no one is making a LARGE ratio quality zoom for M4/3 - like a 14-300mm f3.5-4.8 that can get wildlife/bird shooters to 600mm equiv. with a decent f-stop. Zeiss has done it on the Sony RX10m4 - so we know it CAN be done !
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Dec 24, 2023 14:45:25 #
Dec 24, 2023 15:03:49 #
rehess wrote:
When I switched back to Pentax {from Canon} in 201... (show quote)
Yes, Pentax seems strange at times to support the K mount yet update it. I have Pentax brand K-mounts of all flavors. I am not crazy about the KAF4 lenses in that they lack the aperture ring and iris activation lever so they will not stop down on my Pentax film cameras. I have a APS-C Tamron 18-200mm Pentax KAF3 mount lens and a third party 150-500mm Zoom for my Pentax cameras but I think both are older designs and no longer manufactured.
Dec 24, 2023 15:13:44 #
rehess wrote:
It is consumers who choose “FF” cameras; “APS-C” cameras are available.
Consumers are merely puppets. They do not actually cause market trends, altho smoothly produced puppet theatre can make it appear that they do.
Dec 24, 2023 15:27:17 #
rehess wrote:
Ricoh/Pentax did sell the “K-01” - a K-mount MILC - at one time, but apparently they decided that people expect a MILC to have lenses with a shorter flange distance, which would have diminished the value of their K-mount lenses and forced them to develop a whole new set of lenses, so they have taken a different route.
They ignored everone elses OEM SLR to EVF coverters such as the FTZ, LAE, etc. and so they suffered for it while all the others were benefitting from their own OEM converters.
Dec 24, 2023 15:33:51 #
User ID wrote:
They ignored everone elses OEM SLR to EVF coverters such as the FTZ, LAE, etc. and so they suffered for it while all the others were benefitting from their own OEM converters.
Isn’t “FTZ” a F-mount to Z-mount converter?
Pentax uses K-mount.
I don’t see any connection.
Dec 24, 2023 18:53:04 #
dwmoar
Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
CPR wrote:
"New year hopes : What should the camera makers be working on for 2024 ??"
Make them look more like a cell phone.
Make them look more like a cell phone.
If you want something that looks like a cell phone, buy a cell phone...
Dec 24, 2023 18:59:07 #
rehess wrote:
Isn’t “FTZ” a F-mount to Z-mount converter?
Pentax uses K-mount.
I don’t see any connection.
Pentax uses K-mount.
I don’t see any connection.
Was citing examples where Nikon and Sony did NOT retain the old mount moving from SLR to EVF. Canon and Olympus did likewise and all benefitted from accomodating their legacy mount users via an OEM converter.
OTOH Pentax avoided offering a converter by simply keeping the legacy SLR K-mount and flange depth when they introduced their EVF ... and that only showed that the converter approach is always a success while retaining the legacy mount is a lead balloon.
Its not a matter of good or bad enginneering. Its a matter of reading the tea leaves. (And now Pentax sees a new film camera in their tea leaves ?!?) A K-mount EVF seems like a great idea but the arc of the universe favors new mounts plus converters. Que sera sera.
Dec 24, 2023 19:19:06 #
imagemeister wrote:
My point is no one is making a LARGE ratio quality zoom for M4/3 - like a 14-300mm f3.5-4.8 that can get wildlife/bird shooters to 600mm equiv. with a decent f-stop. Zeiss has done it on the Sony RX10m4 - so we know it CAN be done !
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The so-called 1" sensor is much smaller than Micro 4/3 sensors. So the actual focal length required for an equivalent field of view on m43 would be much longer. That means more glass, more weight, tighter tolerances, and more issues with chromatic aberrations, coma, astigmatism, etc. Long ratio zooms are not known for their great performance. That's why pros limit their zooms to 4:1 or 3:1 ratios. We want great performance across the range, preferably at wide apertures (wide open to two stops down).
I'd rather carry two or three zooms with great performance than one mediocre one that costs the same as the three good ones.
Dec 24, 2023 19:27:52 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
imagemeister wrote:
Many u-tubers have been posing this theme lately .... (show quote)
Major Discounts on flagship models.
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