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Dec 21, 2023 14:21:38   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
RichieC wrote:
NATO Membership obligates each member country to commit to pay a percentage of their GDP on their own defense. Countries other than the US have historically failed to meet this threshold- even the perfectly wealthy ones like Germany. That leaves the US to fund a large part of NATOs budget on the backs of US citizens and not on the backs of the people where NATO resides and is designed to primarily protect.

Trump wanted to leverage them to uphold their commitment to their own defense, he threatened to leave... because your legs are your most powerful negotiating tool- from buying a car to defense of foreign borders... and also because not like the other side of the aisle, he understands that money and munitions do not grow on trees, and NATO would be unassailable if they lived up to their word. This would force Russia to the table of being a trading partner as it would be better than remaining an adversary for them. We would benefit from a Russia as a strategic partner against China... Instead, Democrat policy drives all of them to one side and unites them, something dems are good at.

A strong NATO would avoid the very things going on right now without having to fire a shot. Who is funding this war that happened because Russia figured it would be easy while Biteme dozed?? ... a huge proportion by the US in billions of dollars because the other countries aren't pitching in as much as they said they would.

The problem with Ukraine is, it was corrupt all by itself... so we are supporting one corrupt government, ( not the people) against another corrupt government ( Putin- not the people), but not enough to really make them win...

Anyways- Thats the billions he was talking about, What part of this don't you understand? Commitment, Obligation, pay your fair share - but then I am not surprised.... a common & telling attribute of one political perspective-isn't it? See they don't spend the money, instead they help their domestic non-military economy- because spending money on government does not create prosperity, nor fix bridges... it doesn't even pay to wash off the democrat created excrement from the streets in San Fran & Portland ....

See graph below. You are looking at the light blue columns... the vast majority of countries failing to meet their obligations... in real dollars, because we have by far the biggest economy, the actual dollar figures are staggering ( see second attachment).
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You are referring to Ukraine before Zelenskyy.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been cleaning up the corruption in Ukraine while fighting Putin's illegal invasion into Ukraine!

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Dec 22, 2023 07:17:25   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So what is a fascist John? I am interested in your interpretation, I think that I see a lot of fascism coming from the left. I am not pointing a finger at you but rather at the progressive movement in this country.

The definition if fascism can be found here!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Or here!

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/fascism

The first sentence on this site should be an eye opener for all of you right-wing, trump cultists!

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414

"An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization."

Those definitions perfectly describe trump.

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Dec 22, 2023 09:16:29   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:

The first sentence on this site should be an eye opener for all of you right-wing, trump cultists!

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414

"An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization."

Those definitions perfectly describe trump.


Rac says, "Those Oxford imbeciles don't know their left from right. They always project. They are liars. They are illiterate. lol lol lol "

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Dec 22, 2023 10:03:56   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
You are referring to Ukraine before Zelenskyy.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been cleaning up the corruption in Ukraine while fighting Putin's illegal invasion into Ukraine!


well, hes fighting the invasion,CREDIT FOR THAT. ...but he is probably as corrupt as the BIDEN CRIME FAMILY..HE AINT NO SNOW WHITE

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Dec 22, 2023 11:19:01   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Rac says, "Those Oxford imbeciles don't know their left from right. They always project. They are liars. They are illiterate. lol lol lol "



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Dec 23, 2023 07:09:15   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
well, hes fighting the invasion,CREDIT FOR THAT. ...but he is probably as corrupt as the BIDEN CRIME FAMILY..HE AINT NO SNOW WHITE

If Zelensky was so corrupt, WHY has he been systematically removing corrupt officials from his administration and removing corrupt individuals from the chain of command in the Ukrainian military?

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Dec 23, 2023 07:11:18   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
If Zelensky was so corrupt, WHY has he been systematically removing corrupt officials from his administration and removing corrupt individuals from the chain of command in the Ukrainian military?


they are a threat to his corruption...I admire his challenges and actions against Russia...Google isyour friend..The clown is a crook..Still time for Germanyan others to pony up more bucks

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Dec 23, 2023 07:12:33   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
well, hes fighting the invasion,CREDIT FOR THAT. ...but he is probably as corrupt as the BIDEN CRIME FAMILY..HE AINT NO SNOW WHITE

By the way, WHERE is all of that evidence which the House GOP keeps alluding to, but refuses to release to the public?

Their "impeachment investigation" is nothing more than a sham cover-up to keep the media coverage off of trump's legal problems!

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Dec 23, 2023 07:14:28   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
By the way, WHERE is all of that evidence which the House GOP keeps alluding to, but refuses to release to the public?

Their "impeachment investigation" is nothing more than a sham cover-up to keep the media coverage off of trump's legal problems!


wy are you deflecting ??

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Dec 23, 2023 07:14:50   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
they are a threat to his corruption...I admire his challenges and actions against Russia...Google isyour friend..The clown is a crook..Still time for Germanyan others to pony up more bucks

Got a link to any of Zelensky's alleged corruption?

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Dec 23, 2023 07:17:37   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Got a link to any of Zelensky's alleged corruption?


do your own homework

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Dec 23, 2023 07:56:28   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
do your own homework

Aw gee, someone who's scared to back up their comments with verifiable proof!

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Dec 23, 2023 09:50:19   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Aw gee, someone who's scared to back up their comments with verifiable proof!


not scared, you just too lazy or scared of the truth. or maybe both...

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Dec 23, 2023 11:31:43   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
wilpharm wrote:
not scared, you just too lazy or scared of the truth. or maybe both...


No link means you are selling bull-$hit.

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Dec 23, 2023 12:22:03   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Kraken wrote:
No link means you are selling bull-$hit.


That’s the way I see it no matter who the poster is right or left. Is just another way of the “ prove me wrong “. There are some here that post long winded replies that say or prove nothing. It’s interesting to note those same posters are the most obnoxious name callers.

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