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Dec 15, 2023 20:03:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I shoot flowers in sunlight or direct flash often.
I have dabbled in it. Results vary. Lets compare notes in a PM. My impression is this is definitely an advanced subject.

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Dec 15, 2023 21:16:53   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
JD750 wrote:
I have dabbled in it. Results vary. Lets compare notes in a PM. My impression is this is definitely an advanced subject.


I don't see why it is so advanced. Here are two examples of flower closeups in direct light and background in shadow. The first is sunlight, the second is on camera flash.





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Dec 15, 2023 23:37:08   #
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Bill_de wrote:
They are asking what settings to use. They just aren't giving enough information for anyone to make the decision.

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Was not commenting about his asking for settings. Was commenting on his possibly asking someone to shoot the image for him. He is not capable of telling anyone what he wants them to do. That is all.

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Dec 16, 2023 05:36:56   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Carl1024 wrote:
shooting with a Canon 80D & 90 macro lens, what setting?



Set Camera set to Aperture Priority - Spot Metering - Single point focus- Start out with F8 for your Aperture. Take a photo & adjust as needed. You could put a piece of black paper or ??? for a black background. The second option is to adjust/increase your camera's shutter speed (you will need to be in Manual ISO-LOWEST STTING=ISO100) so there is no light. = Black photo & light your subject. A led continuous light would be easiest. You need something to hold your light or camera if you are shooting by yourself. Second option would be using a flash. Flash will help you get a sharper image, especially if your shooting handheld & outside where there might movement from some wind. Keep in mind, the farther the background is from the flower or any object you are shooting, the easier it will be to get the background dark. Also, it is not uncommon to make the background darker in post production using photo editing software. It might seem like a lot but start off a little at a time. Watch some you tube vids on shooting flowers & editing. I had know idea how to do it when first started reading this forum. A member Old Hippie told me how to do it using Adobe Lightroom Editing software. Play around, Post your results, ask questions & ignore the not so nice or funny comments. Failing is a way of learning. Remember to just have fun while doing it.

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Dec 16, 2023 05:49:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Do you want those photos with or without the squares?

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Dec 16, 2023 09:42:23   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
tcthome wrote:
Set Camera set to Aperture Priority - Spot Metering - Single point focus- Start out with F8 for your Aperture. Take a photo & adjust as needed. You could put a piece of black paper or ??? for a black background. The second option is to adjust/increase your camera's shutter speed (you will need to be in Manual ISO-LOWEST STTING=ISO100) so there is no light. = Black photo & light your subject. A led continuous light would be easiest. You need something to hold your light or camera if you are shooting by yourself. Second option would be using a flash. Flash will help you get a sharper image, especially if your shooting handheld & outside where there might movement from some wind. Keep in mind, the farther the background is from the flower or any object you are shooting, the easier it will be to get the background dark. Also, it is not uncommon to make the background darker in post production using photo editing software. It might seem like a lot but start off a little at a time. Watch some you tube vids on shooting flowers & editing. I had know idea how to do it when first started reading this forum. A member Old Hippie told me how to do it using Adobe Lightroom Editing software. Play around, Post your results, ask questions & ignore the not so nice or funny comments. Failing is a way of learning. Remember to just have fun while doing it.
Set Camera set to Aperture Priority - Spot Meterin... (show quote)

What a wonderful (and nice) reply! Big help to me, too. Thanks, And where is that wonderful Old Hippie and his beautiful flowers?

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Dec 16, 2023 10:26:26   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
If you mean to get the background dark, move in close and spot meter the flower if the background is darker. If there’s even lighting, you’re out of luck without some accessories.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:53:49   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
dustie wrote:
More study of Victor Borge's inflationary language and phonetic punctuation could be quite helpful.


He was the best.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:59:21   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Carl, One way to ensure a black background is to use a black foam core board or poster board placed behind your subject then expose for your subject. If using that method isn’t feasible (like in a ground level shot looking down on your subject, in post processing you can selectively darken the background with the brightness or levels adjustments in your post processing software. Using the selection tools, select your subject, then invert the selection, and adjust your brightness or levels controls to your satisfaction.

Stan

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Dec 16, 2023 13:20:50   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
Do you want the background perfectly black or just dark? I am not nearly as competent as many are here but I have had acceptable success just playing with the black point, shadow, and highlights adjustments in post processing. Please note the background is not perfectly black but the adjustments do make it very dark.



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Dec 16, 2023 14:05:32   #
u4ea
 
Carl1024 wrote:
shooting with a Canon 80D & 90 macro lens, what setting?


Carl,

Don't be discouraged by the snarky clown comments. Wade through the posts and you should find some with good information.

Have a great day!

u4ea

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Dec 16, 2023 14:19:15   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
spot meter off the flower, the back ground won't change, black is black unless you blow out your subject, the flower.

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Dec 16, 2023 14:20:29   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
Pink

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Dec 16, 2023 14:31:21   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
alberio wrote:
He was the best.


👍👍. He had a tremendous grasp of his influence!

If you haven't seen it, don't know if you'd be interested, this is an interview of him when he was 90. Very fine, candid, offstage look into the life of "a snowman", in his words.
It's an amateur production, not by big name production corporation, but kinda can make it seem you're sitting right there in his office, caught up in the story of his life. (It's three hours.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgz7L4XGpxQ

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Dec 16, 2023 14:47:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
bonjac wrote:
Do you want the background perfectly black or just dark? I am not nearly as competent as many are here but I have had acceptable success just playing with the black point, shadow, and highlights adjustments in post processing. Please note the background is not perfectly black but the adjustments do make it very dark.

Ah yes the lovely Orchid, a unique challenge in itself. I have tried many times myself. Some have turned out. Nice job by the way.

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