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Dec 16, 2023 06:02:15   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Ironically, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Wednesday. Still learning this beast. I wondered about the RAW files from the camera. I took I thought a few Shots in RAW @ 12MP and @ 50MP! Is that possible? My previous phone was a Note 8. Thus far I only got normally sized JPGs. I did some checking and found this:

"1 Open the Camera app on your Samsung Galaxy S23.
2 Swipe along the shooting modes and select More.
3 Download/Open Expert RAW.
4 Tap the Settings cog.
5 Tap โ€˜Save pictures inโ€™ and tap RAW format.
6 Take RAW photos in the Expert RAW app."

I'm trying to get RAWs again while I write to you. There seemed to be a few more weird things I had to do with the camera settings. Also downloading and connecting the s23 to my PC was different.

Update 1: Odd, all I got was 12MP JPGs of a few MBs as usual and a few large 50MP at the high resolution setting, but no RAW files still all 8-bit JPGs. All as 72ppi as well, That will change once I run them through the ACR, to 300ppi.

Update 2: I found with in the phone's camera menus that I had to shoot in Pro Mode to get RAW files. I was not surprised as that was the case with my old Note 8 as well. Now I was finally able to get a 12-bit 50MP 33MB RAW (DNG) file and a 12-bit 200MP 119MB RAW (DNG). 50MP and 200MP must be simulated interpolated "resolution". Success!

I'll report back tomorrow with a description of what I see in Ps and perhaps share an image or two after shooting something interesting.
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Dec 16, 2023 07:56:40   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Ironically, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Wednesday. Still learning this beast. I wondered about the RAW files from the camera. I took I thought a few Shots in RAW @ 12MP and @ 50MP! Is that possible? My previous phone was a Note 8. Thus far I only got normally sized JPGs. I did some checking and found this:

"1 Open the Camera app on your Samsung Galaxy S23.
2 Swipe along the shooting modes and select More.
3 Download/Open Expert RAW.
4 Tap the Settings cog.
5 Tap โ€˜Save pictures inโ€™ and tap RAW format.
6 Take RAW photos in the Expert RAW app."

I'm trying to get RAWs again while I write to you. There seemed to be a few more weird things I had to do with the camera settings. Also downloading and connecting the s23 to my PC was different.

Update 1: Odd, all I got was 12MP JPGs of a few MBs as usual and a few large 50MP at the high resolution setting, but no RAW files still all 8-bit JPGs. All as 72ppi as well, That will change once I run them through the ACR, to 300ppi.

Update 2: I found with in the phone's camera menus that I had to shoot in Pro Mode to get RAW files. I was not surprised as that was the case with my old Note 8 as well. Now I was finally able to get a 12-bit 50MP 33MB RAW (DNG) file and a 12-bit 200MP 119MB RAW (DNG). 50MP and 200MP must be simulated interpolated "resolution". Success!

I'll report back tomorrow with a description of what I see in Ps and perhaps share an image or two after shooting something interesting.
Ironically, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra ... (show quote)


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Dec 16, 2023 08:20:31   #
Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach
 
You did not say what software you are using to edit the RAW file. I am not familiar with what Samsung uses as I use an IPhone. But when I shoot in RAW with my iPhone I either edit it in the mobile version of Lightroom or if I can wait then I edit it on my computer in the full version of Lightroom. Lightroom mobile gives me the most options as far as what type of file to export. The Apple Photos app on my phone allows full editing of the RAW file. But I feel more comfortable with importing it into Lightroom mobile where I can actually see it is a DNG file for the editing then exporting as a jpg.

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Dec 16, 2023 08:22:54   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Chadp wrote:
You did not say what software you are using to edit the RAW file. I am not familiar with what Samsung uses as I use an IPhone. But when I shoot in RAW with my iPhone I either edit it in the mobile version of Lightroom or if I can wait then I edit it on my computer in the full version of Lightroom. Lightroom mobile gives me the most options as far as what type of file to export. The Apple Photos app on my phone allows full editing of the RAW file. But I feel more comfortable with importing it into Lightroom mobile where I can actually see it is a DNG file for the editing then exporting as a jpg.
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Dec 16, 2023 09:00:27   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
Chadp wrote:
You did not say what software you are using to edit the RAW file. I am not familiar with what Samsung uses as I use an IPhone. But when I shoot in RAW with my iPhone I either edit it in the mobile version of Lightroom or if I can wait then I edit it on my computer in the full version of Lightroom. Lightroom mobile gives me the most options as far as what type of file to export. The Apple Photos app on my phone allows full editing of the RAW file. But I feel more comfortable with importing it into Lightroom mobile where I can actually see it is a DNG file for the editing then exporting as a jpg.
You did not say what software you are using to edi... (show quote)


Hey, I use Lightroom mobile version only.

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Dec 16, 2023 09:10:53   #
User ID
 
Sidphotog wrote:
Thanks .. Will try it .. But is it normal for the device to convert a RAW into a JPEG during PP ?

Generally speaking, no, not normal, but might be "normal" for your possibly abnormal device :-(

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Dec 16, 2023 10:26:54   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Yup, RAW is RAW and the โ€œsave asโ€ is jpeg or tiff or ??
So-called editing of a RAW file non-destruct on the original file.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:40:02   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Editing turns a RAW file into a JPEG so you can see it as a photo. Before editing, what you see when you open a RAW file is an embedded thumbnail JPEG version. And depending on the editor, you can save the edited RAW file as a TIFF or a number of other viewable formats.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:41:27   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
User ID wrote:
Generally speaking, no, not normal, but might be "normal" for your possibly abnormal device :-(


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Let's not start a Samsung, iPhone debate !

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Dec 16, 2023 11:03:12   #
User ID
 
Sidphotog wrote:
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Let's not start a Samsung, iPhone debate !

Hawgsters say the stoopidest stuff.
Hawgsters say the stoopidest stuff....

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Dec 16, 2023 11:22:22   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
You proved your own point in your last comment

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Dec 16, 2023 11:30:42   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
47greyfox wrote:
Yup, RAW is RAW and the โ€œsave asโ€ is jpeg or tiff or ??
So-called editing of a RAW file non-destruct on the original file.


Thanks .. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Dec 16, 2023 11:31:13   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
gvarner wrote:
Editing turns a RAW file into a JPEG so you can see it as a photo. Before editing, what you see when you open a RAW file is an embedded thumbnail JPEG version. And depending on the editor, you can save the edited RAW file as a TIFF or a number of other viewable formats.


Thank you for your time . ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Dec 16, 2023 11:35:14   #
Hip Coyote
 
I use Lightroom Mobile and can edit raw files, place them into an album and then transfer to my desktop LRC version..all files come across as raw files and the sidecar file comes right along with it so I can continue editing. If you are a LR user try the mobile version and see how it goes.

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Dec 16, 2023 11:49:50   #
Sidphotog Loc: NOIDA, New Delhi, India
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
I use Lightroom Mobile and can edit raw files, place them into an album and then transfer to my desktop LRC version..all files come across as raw files and the sidecar file comes right along with it so I can continue editing. If you are a LR user try the mobile version and see how it goes.


Sure I will .. Thanks .. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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