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Dec 14, 2023 22:54:35   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Same comment: you're call. The feather details on the body (lower right) seem slightly better than the eye, suggesting the plane of focus was slightly closer than the bird's eye. If your only pic of this bird ever, I guess "maybe". Personally, I'd want a better focus on the eye. And, I'd crop tighter, removing more of the open space above and on our left of the bird's head.

But, when I look at the 1:1 details, I'd only keep the better images with better (perfect) focus on the eye. Even the thumbnail seems a bit soft, before opening the attachment. I now have 100,000+ images in my LR catalog checking this morning. I only keep the best, and don't worry about / keep the 2nd or 3rd bests ....
Same comment: you're call. The feather details on ... (show quote)


Absolutely agree with you about some serious flaws with this image. In general, I will only process a shot like this if there is some factor (unique bird, unique setting, unique behavior, etc) that helps to mitigate the focus, noise, BG, etc. This image would never go into my "best" folder, but will go into my Birds of Panama folder. 3 star at best but it is the only one I have of this species.

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Dec 14, 2023 22:55:06   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
kpmac wrote:
I would have kept it, too. Your focus seems to have landed on the neck area but sometimes we don't get what we want and we only get one chance.


Agree. See my reply to Paul.

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Dec 14, 2023 22:55:39   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
Wow, first impressed the 600mm hand held, second that is ISO 10,000! I certainly would keep it!!! I have the same set up and would be very happy with this!


Thank you for the kind words. I handhold this outfit for about 30 seconds at a time.

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Dec 14, 2023 22:56:29   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're only as good as the worst image you share publicly.


Oooh, harsh. I need to go back and delete all those images I took and processed 15 years ago.

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Dec 14, 2023 22:57:00   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
flyboy61 wrote:
Excellent portrait of a fairly unhandsome bird!


Not a beauty at all.

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Dec 14, 2023 23:10:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
bajadreamer wrote:
Oooh, harsh. I need to go back and delete all those images I took and processed 15 years ago.


I preach aggressive culling. The harder you look at your images -- getting rid of more, keeping less -- the better your images will get. Going back in time has limited value, except maybe to find what was truly great, but somehow lost in a group that doesn't meet today's standards.

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Dec 14, 2023 23:51:54   #
Exposures and Art Loc: Murrells Inlet SC
 
Keep it, may never find another...ever! Personal preferences prevail, imho so if YOU are happy with the image because it was a 'grab' shot and rare bird print & hang!

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Dec 15, 2023 05:54:26   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I usually do not process or keep "portrait" type images, but occasionally if I have only one flawed, but maybe salvageable image of a species, I might try to make the save. This is one of those. This is a Great Tinamou, a large, but very secretive bird of Central America rainforests. They have been hunted for a long time and have become very wary in most places. You often hear them at dawn, before the sun rises, but you do not see them often. I saw this one only briefly and had only a fleeting moment to shoot. I was using way too lens (840 mm) and was hand holding so the shot was marginal. Instead of trashing it, I cropped down to the following head shot. Shot with Canon R5, 600 mm f/4.0 + 1.4x extender, handheld at f/5.6, SS 1/320. ISO 10,000. Processed in PS after conversion in DXO Pure Raw 3, and passed through Topaz De Noise prior to conversion to JPEG.
I usually do not process or keep "portrait&qu... (show quote)


Great image of a not so pretty bird
All I would do is crop it a little tighter if it were mine.

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Dec 15, 2023 06:12:10   #
ELNikkor
 
KEEP! Great shot, you went all the way down there, were patient, managed awesome equipment and took this outstanding photo of a rare, maybe one day extinct bird. This is a keeper!

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Dec 15, 2023 06:26:52   #
oldpsych Loc: Indianapolis
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I usually do not process or keep "portrait" type images, but occasionally if I have only one flawed, but maybe salvageable image of a species, I might try to make the save. This is one of those. This is a Great Tinamou, a large, but very secretive bird of Central America rainforests. They have been hunted for a long time and have become very wary in most places. You often hear them at dawn, before the sun rises, but you do not see them often. I saw this one only briefly and had only a fleeting moment to shoot. I was using way too lens (840 mm) and was hand holding so the shot was marginal. Instead of trashing it, I cropped down to the following head shot. Shot with Canon R5, 600 mm f/4.0 + 1.4x extender, handheld at f/5.6, SS 1/320. ISO 10,000. Processed in PS after conversion in DXO Pure Raw 3, and passed through Topaz De Noise prior to conversion to JPEG.
I usually do not process or keep "portrait&qu... (show quote)


Well, I wish I had taken it.

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Dec 15, 2023 08:42:57   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
bajadreamer wrote:
I usually do not process or keep "portrait" type images, but occasionally if I have only one flawed, but maybe salvageable image of a species, I might try to make the save. This is one of those. This is a Great Tinamou, a large, but very secretive bird of Central America rainforests. They have been hunted for a long time and have become very wary in most places. You often hear them at dawn, before the sun rises, but you do not see them often. I saw this one only briefly and had only a fleeting moment to shoot. I was using way too lens (840 mm) and was hand holding so the shot was marginal. Instead of trashing it, I cropped down to the following head shot. Shot with Canon R5, 600 mm f/4.0 + 1.4x extender, handheld at f/5.6, SS 1/320. ISO 10,000. Processed in PS after conversion in DXO Pure Raw 3, and passed through Topaz De Noise prior to conversion to JPEG.
I usually do not process or keep "portrait&qu... (show quote)


You made it, your choice. It's nature, and she has flaws.

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Dec 15, 2023 09:25:21   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Exposures and Art wrote:
Keep it, may never find another...ever! Personal preferences prevail, imho so if YOU are happy with the image because it was a 'grab' shot and rare bird print & hang!


Thanks for looking and commenting. I agree with you. Enough "uniqueness" to warrant keeping it.

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Dec 15, 2023 09:26:44   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Great image of a not so pretty bird
All I would do is crop it a little tighter if it were mine.


Thanks. I can see your thoughts about cropping, but this is already about an 80% crop.

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Dec 15, 2023 09:27:34   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
ELNikkor wrote:
KEEP! Great shot, you went all the way down there, were patient, managed awesome equipment and took this outstanding photo of a rare, maybe one day extinct bird. This is a keeper!


Thanks. Not sure how outstanding it is, but it is a very difficult bird to photograph well (at least in my experience).

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Dec 15, 2023 09:27:53   #
bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur
 
oldpsych wrote:
Well, I wish I had taken it.


Nice words. Thanks.

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