Longshadow wrote:
I'll bet some even think "That's how you're supposed to hold it."...
No doubt, and that due to inexperience or simply copying what others do. We, who are somewhat more experienced and/or knowledgeable are aware that there is not set βrightβ way to hold a camera, whatever kind it is.
Methinks most of you don't understand what's going on with the younger generation and smartphones.
Most of the picture-taking teenagers are not interested in photography. They have been given a no-cost capability to record and distribute an image with a device that's always with them so they use it. They hold the phone vertically because that's the best hold for most uses of the phone.
Tell me again why what they're doing is wrong, why their cellphone camera clicks are a sign of the decline of healthy teenagerhood, and why we should huff and puff and act so superior?
I think their is also another important reason the switch from dominant horizontal to vertical is happening is because of the way we operated "real" cameras in the past and how we viewed photos. My first camera as most were set up to take horizontal photos. It did not seem natural to use vertical and once a flash was attached it changed the shadows to the right or left versus down & behind. When digital came along, we started viewing on computer screens, probably 99+% horizontal oriented so same photos filled the screen. Today my priority viewing is on my phone so vertical fills the screen without rotation. It is beginning to seem natural.
I guess it boils down to whatever works for the situation. I have nothing against either position.
terryMc wrote:
Really? I thought they all held them at a 45Β° angle.
Yes at arms length, with the arm out of focus. π
When I was in school in the 1950s and 1960s, none of my schoolmates took photographs of any kind...vertical or horizontal, out the front or out the back, or any other way...except for the small group that was on the yearbook staff. They shot in medium format...mostly in black and white, but sometimes a tiny bit in color.
I think we should all maybe quit whining about the hordes of kids who now do photography, pick a few out of that huge group and offer to share some ideas with them that would take them beyond what they currently know. You might be surprised what would happen. I can tell you from experience that you need to be prepared to be shocked. And do not skip your blood pressure medicine.
larryepage wrote:
When I was in school in the 1950s and 1960s, none of my schoolmates took photographs of any kind...vertical or horizontal, out the front or out the back, or any other way...except for the small group that was on the yearbook staff. They shot in medium format...mostly in black and white, but sometimes a tiny bit in color.
I think we should all maybe quit whining about the hordes of kids who now do photography, pick a few out of that huge group and offer to share some ideas with them that would take them beyond what they currently know. You might be surprised what would happen. I can tell you from experience that you need to be prepared to be shocked. And do not skip your blood pressure medicine.
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Young people today use phones as an intermediary between themselves when they are not in each others company.
Most are not interested in photography, anymore than they were in our youth.
Longshadow wrote:
Dumb.....
Not... The format is vertical, and most photographers have abandoned instagram because of that. Most including facebook are pandering video now... just post a photo, then a video from a cell phone and see what one does better...
22 of the magazines In the group I contributed to closed down in 2019 for online content. Thank God they still prefer print magazines in Scandinavia and Europe.
Fstop12 wrote:
I agree. I might add that in addition to having no idea about formats, they don't care. It's all about snapping the photo and sending to Social media.
And doing so immediately if not live.
imagextrordinair wrote:
Not... The format is vertical, .....
Wow, where is that written (in stone)?
Or is it a perception.
How do 99.9% of people intrinsically use their phone?
The most comfortable way to hold it. So then most apps are written for portrait.
I'm doing it totally wrong then, I shoot
mostly landscape with my phone.
(Fits monitors and TVs better.)
Save a few portrait shots for a different composition.
Even
Funniest Home Videos is wrong then: "Shoot side-to-side so the image is wide.".
They don't like vertical either.
I say bring back the twin lens reflects. No need to worry about deciding on vertical or horizontal.π€
terryMc
Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
Amadeus wrote:
Yes at arms length, with the arm out of focus. π
If you spend any time on Facebook (I know, but that's where my kids and grandkids are) you will see many, many photos like this one. This is not mine, I just lifted it from a post that popped up in my feed. Any genre of photo, any subject may be taken like this; landscapes, selfies, groups shots, wedding photos. I think it's because someone originally held their phone vertically and just turned it to get everything in the frame, and then someone saw that and it was monkey see, monkey do after that. Forget nonsense like straight horizons, just turn your phone if you must see a picture straight up and down, you know, the way the world really appears to a bi-pedal species...
That's because humans LOVE to categorize and group things.
Still a camera.
Is there a section for view cameras? Pinhole cameras?
Some would even like a <brand> section......
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