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Dec 3, 2023 11:27:39   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:

I stayed with Win 7 on one 10+ year old desktop until a couple of months ago.
It was <finally> time to upgrade the box and OS.
Now the desktop and two laptops are running 11 and they talk to each other much better.
Except one, I have to work on the privileges for one laptop more.


You are way ahead of my curve. I have an older ASUS i7 laptop I used for traveling. It still runs, but I have not traveled since the Pandemic in 2019, so it is on all the time but not used. My desktop is wired and also on all the time, with an occasional restart.

Always appreciate reading your knowledgeable posts. Be well!
Mark

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Dec 3, 2023 12:00:00   #
john451 Loc: Lady's Island, SC/Columbia, SC
 
I have 3 Canon printers/scanners. They worked fine on 10 but none will scan to a windows 11 computer and Canon has no updated drivers.

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Dec 3, 2023 12:08:57   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
john451 wrote:
I have 3 Canon printers/scanners. They worked fine on 10 but none will scan to a windows 11 computer and Canon has no updated drivers.


Were the printer/scanners turned on and online when you did the upgrade from 10 to 11? My experience has been that my Canon Printer works fine with a win 10 driver on a win 11 platform, but it was off when the upgrade occurred, tried uninstalling and reinstalling using the original win 10 driver package with zero luck. Finally checked the log and found out that during the upgrade, the printer (which was off) wasn’t found, and the USB client was labeled as failed. After removing the specific USB client associated with the printer in control panel, and restarting and reinstalling, the printer works fine under 11 with a Win10 driver. Just a thought…

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Dec 3, 2023 12:10:32   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:

I stayed with Win 7 on one 10+ year old desktop until a couple of months ago.
It was <finally> time to upgrade the box and OS.
Now the desktop and two laptops are running 11 and they talk to each other much better.
Except one, I have to work on the privileges for one laptop more.


For me I used Win 7 very little at home. Mostly at work. My home computer went from XP to 10 directly. Didn't go thru 7 and 8, 8.1. I also used very little Win 95 I used mostly Win NT during the Win 95 time.

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Dec 3, 2023 12:24:35   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
bwana wrote:
I just ported an older Win 10 laptop to a new Win 11 laptop. Everything went well; however, I did have to reactivate MS Office 2010.

My only complaint is the inability to have my taskbar down the right side of the screen but I can live with that.

bwa

After the pretty effortless move to Win 11 on my laptop I decided to upgrade my desktop to Win 11 as well. Took an hour and everything runs just like it did under Win 10 with a few very minor changes.

I didn't like Win 11 Start screen so installed START11 which allows me to have any Start screen layout I like. I now have a Win 11 Start screen that is identical to my ol' Win 10 Start screen. I'm a happy puppy!

bwa

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Dec 3, 2023 12:43:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
markngolf wrote:
You are way ahead of my curve. I have an older ASUS i7 laptop I used for traveling. It still runs, but I have not traveled since the Pandemic in 2019, so it is on all the time but not used. My desktop is wired and also on all the time, with an occasional restart.

Always appreciate reading your knowledgeable posts. Be well!
Mark

Thanks.
You also!

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Dec 3, 2023 12:58:38   #
davelissa Loc: Houston
 
therwol wrote:
From media or from a network based image? When I was working for a large corporation, images were created and pushed out to identical machines. All of the issues with One Drive and other things were worked out before Windows was put on the machines.


Both. Some of my clients use images, some machines we set up once received from vendor. Personally, I use pcdecrapifier or ninite to setup as needed.

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Dec 3, 2023 13:08:00   #
davelissa Loc: Houston
 
john451 wrote:
I have 3 Canon printers/scanners. They worked fine on 10 but none will scan to a windows 11 computer and Canon has no updated drivers.


Your easiest option would be to Google and install the Win10 drivers for the model (they will work for Win11) and use the built-in "Windows Fax and Scan" to scan.

Hope that helps!

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Dec 3, 2023 13:11:39   #
davelissa Loc: Houston
 
agillot wrote:
I thought win 8 was good enough .


I found Windows 7 to be better, actually!

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Dec 3, 2023 14:28:39   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jlg1000 wrote:
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back to a motherboard failure, I decided to upgrade my main computer.

So I purchased a brand new i9-13900K CPU, a good Gigabyte B760 motherboard, a couple of 2TG SSD's, a couple of 40TB HDD's , a 4090 GPU, 128 GB DDR5 RAM and 1 KW PSU for good measure.

Because of the amount of purchase, my supplier tossed in a Windows 11 license for free.

Reluctant, after building my system and playing around with that pesky Windows 11 sticker, I decided to give it a try.

What a rubbish!

Bad, really bad user interface if you need many programs for work. No way to organize, change, customize, no nothing. I had to purchase "Start11" ap to make it almost as usable as Windows 10.

It does nasty things to the files. Without asking: for example: I copied all my photos and videos to the E: drive (the 40 TB's HDD's configured as RAID) ... the next morning I had a "no sapce left on drive" error on the C: drive. What had happened? Windows decided that photos should be backed up in OneDrive, so it moved everything to C:\Users \<my_user>\Onedrive\Pictures **without asking **

As I tried to move them back, Windows 11 refused with a stupid error message stating that it was an amovible linkl included. ** I HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT DOWN ONE DRIVE, AND PERFORM A REGISTRY TRICK TO BRING ALL THE FILES BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG**

After that, Windows complained that there was a Backup error, every time I accessed the folder. So I killed OneDrive altogether and deleted it from disk (after another PoweShell+Registry hack)

Windows 11 came with Copilot installed and activated (It's a MS rebranding of ChatGPT ), so I asked this question to the bot: "Why is Windows 11 so bad?"

And this was it sincere answer:

Windows 11 is the latest operating system from Microsoft, released on October 5, 2021. It has been praised for its clean design and improved performance, but it has also received a lot of criticism from users who are unhappy with some of its features and limitations. Some of the reasons why Windows 11 is so bad are:

High hardware requirements: Windows 11 demands some minimum hardware requirements that many current computers do not meet, such as a 64-bit processor with at least two cores and 1 GHz of frequency, 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB of storage space, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 12 and a TPM 2.0 security module. These requirements exclude many old or low-end devices that work perfectly with Windows 10, and force users to buy a new PC or stick with the previous system12.
Performance and compatibility issues: Windows 11 has arrived with several bugs and errors that affect the performance and compatibility of the devices that install it. For example, a performance loss has been detected in AMD Ryzen processors, which is due to a problem with the power plan of Windows 112. There have also been problems with printers, which stop working or give errors when printing2. In addition, some applications and games do not work properly or simply do not run on Windows 11, such as some Android emulators3.
Changes in the interface and functions: Windows 11 has introduced some changes in the interface and functions that nobody asked for and that make the user experience worse. For example, the taskbar is less customizable and functional, the context menus are inconsistent and cluttered, the default apps settings are complicated and tedious, and the Microsoft account is mandatory to use the system124.
These are some of the main complaints that users have about Windows 11. However, there may be more issues that have not been discovered or reported yet. Windows 11 is still a new and unfinished system, and it may improve over time with updates and fixes. However, for now, many users prefer to stay with Windows 10 or look for alternatives.

*** BOTTOM LINE ***

For or those folks which are asking about upgrading to Windows 11, ** DO NOT DARE TO **

Beware, I found many more problems as the one described above.

End of the experiment. I'll be throwing Windows 11 away... together with Windows 95, Vista and Windows 8.

All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back ... (show quote)


One of the things Windows 11 did was to allow users who didn't like the interface to change it back to a Windows 10 configuration which I did and have not had any problems with it. While it may not have changed the whole system back to a Windows 10 environment, the part that did go back made the system more workable for me.

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Dec 3, 2023 15:12:53   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
john451 wrote:
I have 3 Canon printers/scanners. They worked fine on 10 but none will scan to a windows 11 computer and Canon has no updated drivers.

Install Vuescan. My Canon scanner is at least 15 years old and drivers disappeared some versions of Windows well back. But the scanner still works well and Vuescan is updated regularly.

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Dec 3, 2023 16:01:45   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Bridges wrote:
One of the things Windows 11 did was to allow users who didn't like the interface to change it back to a Windows 10 configuration which I did and have not had any problems with it. While it may not have changed the whole system back to a Windows 10 environment, the part that did go back made the system more workable for me.



bwa

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Dec 3, 2023 17:25:56   #
Phil Singer Loc: Beautiful Downtown Brighton Michigan
 
I've run nothing but openSUSE Linux for the last 15 years. Had no idea WinDoze had gotten so bad.

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Dec 3, 2023 17:38:43   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Phil Singer wrote:
I've run nothing but openSUSE Linux for the last 15 years. Had no idea WinDoze had gotten so bad.


It’s not bad. When you have a modern OS supporting hundreds of thousands of 3rd party HW, processors, aps and peripherals, and still rarely failing while continually adding features and providing upgrades for free, that’s not a bad record.

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Dec 3, 2023 17:39:38   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
No problems...yet!

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