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Dec 2, 2023 09:25:23   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back to a motherboard failure, I decided to upgrade my main computer.

So I purchased a brand new i9-13900K CPU, a good Gigabyte B760 motherboard, a couple of 2TG SSD's, a couple of 40TB HDD's , a 4090 GPU, 128 GB DDR5 RAM and 1 KW PSU for good measure.

Because of the amount of purchase, my supplier tossed in a Windows 11 license for free.

Reluctant, after building my system and playing around with that pesky Windows 11 sticker, I decided to give it a try.

What a rubbish!

Bad, really bad user interface if you need many programs for work. No way to organize, change, customize, no nothing. I had to purchase "Start11" ap to make it almost as usable as Windows 10.

It does nasty things to the files. Without asking: for example: I copied all my photos and videos to the E: drive (the 40 TB's HDD's configured as RAID) ... the next morning I had a "no sapce left on drive" error on the C: drive. What had happened? Windows decided that photos should be backed up in OneDrive, so it moved everything to C:\Users \<my_user>\Onedrive\Pictures **without asking **

As I tried to move them back, Windows 11 refused with a stupid error message stating that it was an amovible linkl included. ** I HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT DOWN ONE DRIVE, AND PERFORM A REGISTRY TRICK TO BRING ALL THE FILES BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG**

After that, Windows complained that there was a Backup error, every time I accessed the folder. So I killed OneDrive altogether and deleted it from disk (after another PoweShell+Registry hack)

Windows 11 came with Copilot installed and activated (It's a MS rebranding of ChatGPT ), so I asked this question to the bot: "Why is Windows 11 so bad?"

And this was it sincere answer:

Windows 11 is the latest operating system from Microsoft, released on October 5, 2021. It has been praised for its clean design and improved performance, but it has also received a lot of criticism from users who are unhappy with some of its features and limitations. Some of the reasons why Windows 11 is so bad are:

High hardware requirements: Windows 11 demands some minimum hardware requirements that many current computers do not meet, such as a 64-bit processor with at least two cores and 1 GHz of frequency, 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB of storage space, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 12 and a TPM 2.0 security module. These requirements exclude many old or low-end devices that work perfectly with Windows 10, and force users to buy a new PC or stick with the previous system12.
Performance and compatibility issues: Windows 11 has arrived with several bugs and errors that affect the performance and compatibility of the devices that install it. For example, a performance loss has been detected in AMD Ryzen processors, which is due to a problem with the power plan of Windows 112. There have also been problems with printers, which stop working or give errors when printing2. In addition, some applications and games do not work properly or simply do not run on Windows 11, such as some Android emulators3.
Changes in the interface and functions: Windows 11 has introduced some changes in the interface and functions that nobody asked for and that make the user experience worse. For example, the taskbar is less customizable and functional, the context menus are inconsistent and cluttered, the default apps settings are complicated and tedious, and the Microsoft account is mandatory to use the system124.
These are some of the main complaints that users have about Windows 11. However, there may be more issues that have not been discovered or reported yet. Windows 11 is still a new and unfinished system, and it may improve over time with updates and fixes. However, for now, many users prefer to stay with Windows 10 or look for alternatives.


*** BOTTOM LINE ***

For or those folks which are asking about upgrading to Windows 11, ** DO NOT DARE TO **

Beware, I found many more problems as the one described above.

End of the experiment. I'll be throwing Windows 11 away... together with Windows 95, Vista and Windows 8.

All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.

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Dec 2, 2023 09:35:05   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
jlg1000 wrote:
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back to a motherboard failure, I decided to upgrade my main computer.

So I purchased a brand new i9-13900K CPU, a good Gigabyte B760 motherboard, a couple of 2TG SSD's, a couple of 40TB HDD's , a 4090 GPU, 128 GB DDR5 RAM and 1 KW PSU for good measure.

Because of the amount of purchase, my supplier tossed in a Windows 11 license for free.

Reluctant, after building my system and playing around with that pesky Windows 11 sticker, I decided to give it a try.

What a rubbish!

Bad, really bad user interface if you need many programs for work. No way to organize, change, customize, no nothing. I had to purchase "Start11" ap to make it almost as usable as Windows 10.

It does nasty things to the files. Without asking: for example: I copied all my photos and videos to the E: drive (the 40 TB's HDD's configured as RAID) ... the next morning I had a "no sapce left on drive" error on the C: drive. What had happened? Windows decided that photos should be backed up in OneDrive, so it moved everything to C:\Users \<my_user>\Onedrive\Pictures **without asking **

As I tried to move them back, Windows 11 refused with a stupid error message stating that it was an amovible linkl included. ** I HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT DOWN ONE DRIVE, AND PERFORM A REGISTRY TRICK TO BRING ALL THE FILES BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG**

After that, Windows complained that there was a Backup error, every time I accessed the folder. So I killed OneDrive altogether and deleted it from disk (after another PoweShell+Registry hack)

Windows 11 came with Copilot installed and activated (It's a MS rebranding of ChatGPT ), so I asked this question to the bot: "Why is Windows 11 so bad?"

And this was it sincere answer:

Windows 11 is the latest operating system from Microsoft, released on October 5, 2021. It has been praised for its clean design and improved performance, but it has also received a lot of criticism from users who are unhappy with some of its features and limitations. Some of the reasons why Windows 11 is so bad are:

High hardware requirements: Windows 11 demands some minimum hardware requirements that many current computers do not meet, such as a 64-bit processor with at least two cores and 1 GHz of frequency, 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB of storage space, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 12 and a TPM 2.0 security module. These requirements exclude many old or low-end devices that work perfectly with Windows 10, and force users to buy a new PC or stick with the previous system12.
Performance and compatibility issues: Windows 11 has arrived with several bugs and errors that affect the performance and compatibility of the devices that install it. For example, a performance loss has been detected in AMD Ryzen processors, which is due to a problem with the power plan of Windows 112. There have also been problems with printers, which stop working or give errors when printing2. In addition, some applications and games do not work properly or simply do not run on Windows 11, such as some Android emulators3.
Changes in the interface and functions: Windows 11 has introduced some changes in the interface and functions that nobody asked for and that make the user experience worse. For example, the taskbar is less customizable and functional, the context menus are inconsistent and cluttered, the default apps settings are complicated and tedious, and the Microsoft account is mandatory to use the system124.
These are some of the main complaints that users have about Windows 11. However, there may be more issues that have not been discovered or reported yet. Windows 11 is still a new and unfinished system, and it may improve over time with updates and fixes. However, for now, many users prefer to stay with Windows 10 or look for alternatives.

*** BOTTOM LINE ***

For or those folks which are asking about upgrading to Windows 11, ** DO NOT DARE TO **

Beware, I found many more problems as the one described above.

End of the experiment. I'll be throwing Windows 11 away... together with Vista and Windows 8.

All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back ... (show quote)


Actually I am just a single home user that has watched and listened to my better half MOAN and GROAN about her Windows machine for YEARS. I personally went to the dark side with Apple a LONG time ago and FINALLY talked her into throwing the Windows out the Window... My marriage has been reborn with her new iMac 24 and M1. Not specifically plugging Apple but more of a SHOUTDOWN for Windows... BTW, My 27 " finally bit the dust and a iMac 24 M3 is on the way for me.... There is MUCH happiness in Mr. Bob's household at the present ! Sorry, just another little rant !

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Dec 2, 2023 09:48:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I have Win 11 Pro on the desktop, Win 11 Home on both laptops.
I never used Win 10, but a lot different than Win 7.
We have no problem with Win11 at all, but I did turn off One Drive use, it's such a pain in the butt and greatly clutters File Explorer.

I believe I removed Co-pilot also...

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Dec 2, 2023 10:01:03   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jlg1000 wrote:
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back to a motherboard failure, I decided to upgrade my main computer.

So I purchased a brand new i9-13900K CPU, a good Gigabyte B760 motherboard, a couple of 2TG SSD's, a couple of 40TB HDD's , a 4090 GPU, 128 GB DDR5 RAM and 1 KW PSU for good measure.

Because of the amount of purchase, my supplier tossed in a Windows 11 license for free.

Reluctant, after building my system and playing around with that pesky Windows 11 sticker, I decided to give it a try.

What a rubbish!

Bad, really bad user interface if you need many programs for work. No way to organize, change, customize, no nothing. I had to purchase "Start11" ap to make it almost as usable as Windows 10.

It does nasty things to the files. Without asking: for example: I copied all my photos and videos to the E: drive (the 40 TB's HDD's configured as RAID) ... the next morning I had a "no sapce left on drive" error on the C: drive. What had happened? Windows decided that photos should be backed up in OneDrive, so it moved everything to C:\Users \<my_user>\Onedrive\Pictures **without asking **

As I tried to move them back, Windows 11 refused with a stupid error message stating that it was an amovible linkl included. ** I HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT DOWN ONE DRIVE, AND PERFORM A REGISTRY TRICK TO BRING ALL THE FILES BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG**

After that, Windows complained that there was a Backup error, every time I accessed the folder. So I killed OneDrive altogether and deleted it from disk (after another PoweShell+Registry hack)

Windows 11 came with Copilot installed and activated (It's a MS rebranding of ChatGPT ), so I asked this question to the bot: "Why is Windows 11 so bad?"

And this was it sincere answer:

Windows 11 is the latest operating system from Microsoft, released on October 5, 2021. It has been praised for its clean design and improved performance, but it has also received a lot of criticism from users who are unhappy with some of its features and limitations. Some of the reasons why Windows 11 is so bad are:

High hardware requirements: Windows 11 demands some minimum hardware requirements that many current computers do not meet, such as a 64-bit processor with at least two cores and 1 GHz of frequency, 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB of storage space, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 12 and a TPM 2.0 security module. These requirements exclude many old or low-end devices that work perfectly with Windows 10, and force users to buy a new PC or stick with the previous system12.
Performance and compatibility issues: Windows 11 has arrived with several bugs and errors that affect the performance and compatibility of the devices that install it. For example, a performance loss has been detected in AMD Ryzen processors, which is due to a problem with the power plan of Windows 112. There have also been problems with printers, which stop working or give errors when printing2. In addition, some applications and games do not work properly or simply do not run on Windows 11, such as some Android emulators3.
Changes in the interface and functions: Windows 11 has introduced some changes in the interface and functions that nobody asked for and that make the user experience worse. For example, the taskbar is less customizable and functional, the context menus are inconsistent and cluttered, the default apps settings are complicated and tedious, and the Microsoft account is mandatory to use the system124.
These are some of the main complaints that users have about Windows 11. However, there may be more issues that have not been discovered or reported yet. Windows 11 is still a new and unfinished system, and it may improve over time with updates and fixes. However, for now, many users prefer to stay with Windows 10 or look for alternatives.


*** BOTTOM LINE ***

For or those folks which are asking about upgrading to Windows 11, ** DO NOT DARE TO **

Beware, I found many more problems as the one described above.

End of the experiment. I'll be throwing Windows 11 away... together with Windows 95, Vista and Windows 8.

All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back ... (show quote)


One Drive problems can plague Windows 10 users as well. When you set it up, the default is to synch virtually all of your files to it. If you don't turn it off before adding a lot of files to your computer, it will quickly run out of space. You only get 25 gigabytes free. This results in endless warnings and other problems with your files. As for the rest of it, I don't know anything about that. My 4 year old computers won't run Windows 11. I'm not going to have to deal with it until my computers have to be replaced, and that will take some time. Maybe the problems will be worked out by then.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:23:47   #
JBRIII
 
I guess having limited data and bandwidth with your internet service can be a good thing (only one I've found). It would take so long and use a decades worth of upload limit to upload all my images that I never activate anything like one drive.

I did have similar problems at work. They had a service somewhat similar to dropbox. A collaborating in Poland wanted all the data files, 20GB of data, no images. I specifically asked if there were limits, NO!, real answer YES! - crashed the system for the agency. Person who said NO got to clean up the mess.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:24:28   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I installed Win 10 Pro within 3 weeks of its original issue. Never had any issues. I did the same with Win 11 Pro in 2021. I have not experienced any issues with it. I only see minor differences between Win 10 & Win 11.
Mark

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Dec 2, 2023 10:30:16   #
photoman43
 
therwol wrote:
One Drive problems can plague Windows 10 users as well. When you set it up, the default is to synch virtually all of your files to it. If you don't turn it off before adding a lot of files to your computer, it will quickly run out of space. You only get 25 gigabytes free. This results in endless warnings and other problems with your files. As for the rest of it, I don't know anything about that. My 4 year old computers won't run Windows 11. I'm not going to have to deal with it until my computers have to be replaced, and that will take some time. Maybe the problems will be worked out by then.
One Drive problems can plague Windows 10 users as ... (show quote)



One solution is NOT to use One Drive. Google to learn how to turn it off.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/turn-off-disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-f32a17ce-3336-40fe-9c38-6efb09f944b0

On my Apple iphone, I hav to use the Cloud for certain things. The cloud issue is not just a Microsoft thing.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:35:36   #
BebuLamar
 
I have problem upgrade to Windows 11 but when it did I don't have that much problem. One problem is that my USB to RS-232 adapter no longer work.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:37:43   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
I downloaded and installed Windows 11 from the first day it became available on the internet from Microsoft and I have not had a single problem with it period. Great operating system.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:44:39   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jlg1000 wrote:
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back to a motherboard failure, I decided to upgrade my main computer.

So I purchased a brand new i9-13900K CPU, a good Gigabyte B760 motherboard, a couple of 2TG SSD's, a couple of 40TB HDD's , a 4090 GPU, 128 GB DDR5 RAM and 1 KW PSU for good measure.

Because of the amount of purchase, my supplier tossed in a Windows 11 license for free.

Reluctant, after building my system and playing around with that pesky Windows 11 sticker, I decided to give it a try.

What a rubbish!

Bad, really bad user interface if you need many programs for work. No way to organize, change, customize, no nothing. I had to purchase "Start11" ap to make it almost as usable as Windows 10.

It does nasty things to the files. Without asking: for example: I copied all my photos and videos to the E: drive (the 40 TB's HDD's configured as RAID) ... the next morning I had a "no sapce left on drive" error on the C: drive. What had happened? Windows decided that photos should be backed up in OneDrive, so it moved everything to C:\Users \<my_user>\Onedrive\Pictures **without asking **

As I tried to move them back, Windows 11 refused with a stupid error message stating that it was an amovible linkl included. ** I HAD TO MANUALLY SHUT DOWN ONE DRIVE, AND PERFORM A REGISTRY TRICK TO BRING ALL THE FILES BACK TO WHERE THEY BELONG**

After that, Windows complained that there was a Backup error, every time I accessed the folder. So I killed OneDrive altogether and deleted it from disk (after another PoweShell+Registry hack)

Windows 11 came with Copilot installed and activated (It's a MS rebranding of ChatGPT ), so I asked this question to the bot: "Why is Windows 11 so bad?"

And this was it sincere answer:

Windows 11 is the latest operating system from Microsoft, released on October 5, 2021. It has been praised for its clean design and improved performance, but it has also received a lot of criticism from users who are unhappy with some of its features and limitations. Some of the reasons why Windows 11 is so bad are:

High hardware requirements: Windows 11 demands some minimum hardware requirements that many current computers do not meet, such as a 64-bit processor with at least two cores and 1 GHz of frequency, 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB of storage space, a graphics card compatible with DirectX 12 and a TPM 2.0 security module. These requirements exclude many old or low-end devices that work perfectly with Windows 10, and force users to buy a new PC or stick with the previous system12.
Performance and compatibility issues: Windows 11 has arrived with several bugs and errors that affect the performance and compatibility of the devices that install it. For example, a performance loss has been detected in AMD Ryzen processors, which is due to a problem with the power plan of Windows 112. There have also been problems with printers, which stop working or give errors when printing2. In addition, some applications and games do not work properly or simply do not run on Windows 11, such as some Android emulators3.
Changes in the interface and functions: Windows 11 has introduced some changes in the interface and functions that nobody asked for and that make the user experience worse. For example, the taskbar is less customizable and functional, the context menus are inconsistent and cluttered, the default apps settings are complicated and tedious, and the Microsoft account is mandatory to use the system124.
These are some of the main complaints that users have about Windows 11. However, there may be more issues that have not been discovered or reported yet. Windows 11 is still a new and unfinished system, and it may improve over time with updates and fixes. However, for now, many users prefer to stay with Windows 10 or look for alternatives.


*** BOTTOM LINE ***

For or those folks which are asking about upgrading to Windows 11, ** DO NOT DARE TO **

Beware, I found many more problems as the one described above.

End of the experiment. I'll be throwing Windows 11 away... together with Windows 95, Vista and Windows 8.

All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.
After a heavy computer crash, which I traced back ... (show quote)


I'd be on the Linux band wagon except for one item, my choice of photo processing program is PSP and is not available except in Windows configuration, and I do not have the expertise or budget for an extra computer to experiment with emulators to get it to run under Linux, if I cannot upgrade this machine to Win11 I may give it a try in the future.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:46:03   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
therwol wrote:
One Drive problems can plague Windows 10 users as well. When you set it up, the default is to synch virtually all of your files to it. If you don't turn it off before adding a lot of files to your computer, it will quickly run out of space. You only get 25 gigabytes free. This results in endless warnings and other problems with your files. As for the rest of it, I don't know anything about that. My 4 year old computers won't run Windows 11. I'm not going to have to deal with it until my computers have to be replaced, and that will take some time. Maybe the problems will be worked out by then.
One Drive problems can plague Windows 10 users as ... (show quote)


I think we have 22 months left on Win 10.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:54:47   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
I think we have 22 months left on Win 10.


Bob,
It will still run after 22 months, but Microsoft will not support it or issue any updates subsequent to the termination date.
I wish you trouble free running!
Mark

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Dec 2, 2023 10:59:35   #
radiojohn
 
jlg1000 wrote:


All in all I'm a Linux sysadmin and developer, I don't need to go through this s**t.


IF you have a spare aging Windows PC, it is now easier than ever to install a 100% free OS with ton of 100% free apps, including "office" types and quite a few photo apps. Linux does not run Windows apps natively.

For non-enthuiasts, try EndlessOS. Install the basic version and then pick and choose the "flatpak" apps that install with a click. The "full" version has a lot of educational stuff for kids you my not want.

You could hand Endless to a new user and they might think it was Windows.

One click up is Fedora Workstation. Same apps, but a bit more responsive.

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Dec 2, 2023 10:59:53   #
BebuLamar
 
markngolf wrote:
Bob,
It will still run after 22 months, but Microsoft will not support it or issue any updates subsequent to the termination date.
I wish you trouble free running!
Mark


After that you start losing the internet browsing capability. For example with Windows XP I can still use it perfectly fine except for browsing the internet. It's possible but very difficult.

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Dec 2, 2023 11:12:37   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
markngolf wrote:
Bob,
It will still run after 22 months, but Microsoft will not support it or issue any updates subsequent to the termination date.
I wish you trouble free running!
Mark


I'm aware that the machine will run, really need to only have one machine on my desk, not an awful amount of room to have two set ups, currently trying to see if this machine has TPM that is not turned on, I see a reference to TPM 2.0 but health check doesn't see it.

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