A game changer with Sony (Page 3): And there are other plusses, like flash at any shutter speed. I'll keep my enthusiasm under wraps until they manage to combine a global shutter with...

R.G. Loc: Scotland

User ID wrote:

Sort of true but youre forgetting about how nearly ubiquitous pulsed lighting is causing density banding with the scanning shutters.

For that rather common problem alone its a seriously Very Big Deal. Antiflicker just cant solve it, especially at the faster frequencies.

And there are other plusses, like flash at any shutter speed. I'll keep my enthusiasm under wraps until they manage to combine a global shutter with stacked photodiodes. That's when it becomes a big deal IMO. Overheating might become an issue, but I'm sure there will be answers to that.

chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY

Wallen wrote:

If this is all true, the others should step up right away or lose the battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3LoZh-2Ew

We will all still continue to take great shots, including fast action shots, without a global shutter, for many years to come. I agree with Matt Granger's recent video (if you follow him on youtube), that a global shutter camera is largely niche, especially at a $6000 price tag. Eventually Canon, Nikon and others will adopt their own global shutter line, but I don't think it is top priority. I'd rather them focus their R&D on better AF acquisition, subject detection and tracking ability, and lenses. Very few of us have the need for distortion-less 120 fps images, or the patience to wade through 200 images in one shot, or flash sync at 1/18,000.

Canisdirus

Wallen wrote:

If this is all true, the others should step up right away or lose the battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3LoZh-2Ew

No one CAN step up.

If they could...they sure as heck would be saying so...now would be the time as the market slides away.

Nikon and Canon are not exactly innovative companies...they have always moved at a slow pace...there was no third party making them seem slow...but they are.

It took them more than 5 years to admit mirrorless might be better...

It's the very same pattern...not surprised.

richardsaccount

Simply put, not everybody needs this feature.

Old Coot

Wallen wrote:

If this is all true, the others should step up right away or lose the battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj3LoZh-2Ew

Who cares. ! We have been taking beautiful photos for decades without this feature.
Only relevant to those photographers who care more about the technical capabilities than actually taking photographs.

imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway

There is no reason to believe there will be any image quality losses based on a global shutter, except for a short time... this is Sony's first born, so expect huge gains as the technology advances.

The most important feature of the global shutter may be sync speed and flash. this will change everything for so many different types of photography.

The Zillions of superior mirror-less wonders cameras produced since 2019 will most likely go the way of the DLSR and film SLR. Perhaps most of the latest mirror-less soon to be dinosaur's are destined for the shelves of Goodwill...

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Old Coot wrote:

Who cares. ! We have been taking beautiful photos for decades without this feature.
Only relevant to those photographers who care more about the technical capabilities than actually taking photographs.

Or we could just scratch images in the sand with a stick.

ChristianHJensen

Meh - tempest in a teacup

Completely making a sensation out of a minor detail

rcarol

R.G. wrote:

And there are other plusses, like flash at any shutter speed. I'll keep my enthusiasm under wraps until they manage to combine a global shutter with stacked photodiodes. That's when it becomes a big deal IMO. Overheating might become an issue, but I'm sure there will be answers to that.

Given that the global shutter will sync to flash at any speed it will be curious to see what the results will be when the shutter duration is less than the flash duration.

Grahame Loc: Fiji

Old Coot wrote:

Who cares. ! We have been taking beautiful photos for decades without this feature.
Only relevant to those photographers who care more about the technical capabilities than actually taking photographs.

I just laugh when I read posts such as this.

You suggest it's "only relevant to those photographers who care more about the technical capabilities than actually taking photographs".

Perhaps you don't understand that it's the "technical capabilities" that allow some to actually take more and better photographs in certain circumstances. I'll give you an example, I photograph action at times in very low light and use flash to provide some fill. I have to use a shutter speed to freeze the action, 1/1200 to 1/1600s so have no choice but to use HSS unless I want double exposures. That has a downside, a significant reduction in power, and limits my range. This new technology allows for greater flash power, so greater range.

imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway

Grahame wrote:

I just laugh when I read posts such as this. br b... (show quote)

There is a delay setting...

gwilliams6

Why Hate the Sony A9III ? This Nikon guy appreciate this monumental moment

Vahagraphy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zworzkYCUj4

Cheers

gwilliams6

(quote) Why Hate the Sony A9III ? This Nikon guy appreciate this monumental moment. What''s with all the Sony A9III hate out there? What's with some channels dissing Sony's monumental achievement here? As a lifelong Nikon photographer as I am, let's talk about this. We should not hate what Sony has done here? We should not downplay or lessen the A9 III and what this means. We should give major credit where credit is due.

As a Nikon photographer owning many F, D and Z cameras, I do just that. We should not hate or downgrade this monent, instead we should say - "What does this global shutter on the Sony A9 III mean for future Nikon photographers". and also give credit where credit is due.

Let's get into it. (end quote)

Vahagraphy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zworzkYCUj4

Cheers

R.G. Loc: Scotland

rcarol wrote:

Given that the global shutter will sync to flash at any speed it will be curious to see what the results will be when the shutter duration is less than the flash duration.

I suppose in that situation the ambient light level becomes almost irrelevant and the only significant factor is the strength of the flash.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

I wonder anybody experiences rolling shutter effect with the Nikon Z8 and Z9? They don't have global shutter nor mechanical shutter.

You have to experience real speed; most of us don’t - this will be a ‘game changer’ only for the few who experience real speed, depend on ambient LCD lighting, or need really really flash ……. or someone who needs to brag about his camera.