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Nov 3, 2023 13:41:41   #
Canisdirus
 
riderxlx wrote:
it is not, it is not Gods way.
bruce


Fact is...it's not...anything at all...just our very...very superstitious minds.

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Nov 3, 2023 13:55:42   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Fact is...it's not...anything at all...just our very...very superstitious minds.


yea but how one or you distinguish between superstition, history, facts or just plain BS and then call it reality ?
hum?
bruce

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Nov 3, 2023 14:31:42   #
dwermske
 
riderxlx wrote:
it is not, it is not Gods way.
bruce


God led Moses to the promised land but when Joshua entered the promised land, he did not just say thanks for the land, he took it by force with the help of God. God's way is not always a peaceful one. The great flood is another example, where God killed a lot of people so he could start over. Even animals battle for territory. It's called survival of the fittest. This is to insure that only the strongest survive. It is natures way, man has just improved on the idea to the point of possible extinction. Would you turn the other cheek if it were your children being slautered?

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Nov 3, 2023 14:43:52   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
dwermske wrote:
God led Moses to the promised land but when Joshua entered the promised land, he did not just say thanks for the land, he took it by force with the help of God. God's way is not always a peaceful one. The great flood is another example, where God killed a lot of people so he could start over. Even animals battle for territory. It's called survival of the fittest. This is to insure that only the strongest survive. It is natures way, man has just improved on the idea to the point of possible extinction. Would you turn the other cheek if it were your children being slautered?
God led Moses to the promised land but when Joshua... (show quote)


Ok I am not going to get into a religious pissing debate because I am not religious. First of all to understand what happened in biblical history you need to understand who God is and why he told certain people at certain times what to do for a reason.
It is HIS land and he can do what he wants to do with it and as far as how the Joshua stuff went, look at history beyond the bible.
Yea this debating stuff can go on and never reach an end.
I learned over 50 years ago to seek the truth beyond the church denominational teaching and WHY they and where came to these beliefs. Also the doubters, atheist, etc. I was there myself at one time so I understand why they think the way they do.
Life is a journey on this Earth but just for a brief moment in time but understanding the bigger picture as like us ants looking up at the sky if they can.
If you get his so far, good.
Bruce.

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Nov 3, 2023 15:06:49   #
mhicks49
 
You are correct. The only peace those types understand is, peace through the strength of the GOOD people.

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Nov 3, 2023 15:13:09   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
mhicks49 wrote:
You are correct. The only peace those types understand is, peace through the strength of the GOOD people.


right on bro, so true, I say kill'm all but then ? well should we pray for them too ?
bruce

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Nov 3, 2023 15:46:25   #
BigOldArt Loc: Seminole, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
"Give Peace a Chance" - not likely! It seems that humanity is programmed to engage in warfare.
. . .

see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seville_Statement_on_Violence

Humans have reflexes, but not instincts.
Overwhelmingly, human behavior is learned by imitation or or instruction. Consider 2 topics where from evolutionary theory one would expect behavior to be be built in, but is not.
1) other higher primates do not to copulate unless raised in a social environment.
2) midwives must teach women how to nurse their young.

IMO if any complex behaviors were hard-wired, surely copulation and nursing would be among them.

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Nov 3, 2023 17:00:31   #
dwermske
 
You're the one that brought God into the picture. I wasn't debating anything except to question what you stated to be "Gods way".

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Nov 3, 2023 17:04:29   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
dwermske wrote:
You're the one that brought God into the picture. I wasn't debating anything except to question what you stated to be "Gods way".


Ok bro, state your thoughts on this as I was not debating but IF you want to question what I said then this needs to go off the main thread so not to clutter up the post.
bruce

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Nov 3, 2023 17:15:20   #
srt101fan
 
BigOldArt wrote:
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seville_Statement_on_Violence

Humans have reflexes, but not instincts.
Overwhelmingly, human behavior is learned by imitation or or instruction. Consider 2 topics where from evolutionary theory one would expect behavior to be be built in, but is not.
1) other higher primates do not to copulate unless raised in a social environment.
2) midwives must teach women how to nurse their young.

IMO if any complex behaviors were hard-wired, surely copulation and nursing would be among them.
see br https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seville_State... (show quote)


You don't have an instinct for self-preservation?

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Nov 3, 2023 19:15:37   #
wandering star Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
 
Many tribes had brutal wars as hunter gatherers.

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Nov 4, 2023 01:06:14   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Religion is not worth fighting for, and that accounts for a ton of misery...such a waste.

But one of, if not the major cause of conflicts and bloodshed!

bwa

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Nov 4, 2023 07:29:07   #
ELNikkor
 
The "give peace a chance" set usually fails to understand that it takes a war to get there.

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Nov 4, 2023 07:37:30   #
Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA
 
ELNikkor wrote:
The "give peace a chance" set usually fails to understand that it takes a war to get there.


Simple solution: Every person alive would live by the golden rule, there would be peace. Personal peace is found all around us in our daily lives, but it is up to each individual to determine what helps them to find peace.

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Nov 4, 2023 08:00:17   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
Maybe if we had more women running things there might be more peace.

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